Hi, On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 6:39 PM Robert Kern <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 5:55 AM Matthew Brett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> To reduce the heat on this issue I have: >> >> a) Deleted my comment on the PR, and my reference to that comment. >> b) Reposted as a Gist so people reading this thread can see what the >> discussion was about : >> https://gist.github.com/matthew-brett/a9b43c7266e0fb4f773677ca838fa920 >> > Thank you. That is very much appreciated. > >> >> Further replies inline: >> >> On Fri, Feb 20, 2026 at 2:36 AM Robert Kern via NumPy-Discussion >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2026 at 6:29 PM Matthew Brett <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Sorry - top posting - but: >> >> >> >> I delayed my reply because your accusation of bad faith seemed so >> >> obviously unreasonable, that I had imagined someone might intervene on >> >> my behalf, but it seems not. >> >> >> >> As I understand it, you're saying that my - rather silly - master plan >> >> was to post an AI-generated response that was so obviously wrong that >> >> it would persuade everyone that AI was bad. And to add to my >> >> incompetence, I sent a link to another conversation I'd had with the >> >> AI, where it did better, undermining my own case. >> > >> > >> > No, I don't suspect that you have any master plan to convince anyone by >> > this example alone. >> >> You wrote before that "Rather, it increasingly seems like you are >> strawmanning a particularly bad use of LLMs in order to make a point >> that LLMs are bad." as the explanation for why you now suspect I was >> acting in bad faith. I presume from the "this example alone" that you >> still think I have such a program. As I said before - that's a very >> silly program. What's the idea here - that I try and persuade my >> competent and intelligent colleagues of such a ridiculous binary by >> sneaking in bad examples, when of course y'all have seen many such >> examples yourselves? It's the price of AI admission. As Matthew >> Rocklin put it, in his very useful article advocating AI for code >> generation: "LLMs generate a lot of junk" : >> https://matthewrocklin.com/ai-zealotry/#why-ai . Yet it is clear to me >> they will also offer benefit, if used with care. > > > In the interest of playing the ball and not the man, and refocusing on > offering a path forward to return to productive conversation (one that I am > glad that we have taken), I had deleted a paragraph where I detailed the > patterns I am seeing. If you'd like to talk about it in private, I am at your > service.
Thank you - I'm glad to hear - and likewise, Matthew _______________________________________________ NumPy-Discussion mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman3//lists/numpy-discussion.python.org Member address: [email protected]
