On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn <da...@student.matnat.uio.no> wrote: > Kurt Smith wrote: >> On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Dag Sverre Seljebotn >> <da...@student.matnat.uio.no> wrote: >> >> >>> Not that I really know anything about it, but note that one of the >>> purposes of David's toydist is to handle the install stage independently >>> of the build system used. That is, it is able to create e.g. Python eggs >>> without using setuptools. >>> >>> The thing is, installing Python software is something of a mess, and >>> every system would want this done differently (making an Ubuntu package, >>> creating a DMG, or creating a Python egg are all different things). So I >>> think it makes sense to decouple this from the build in the tools that >>> are used. >>> >> >> Yep. Good points. I expect once I get the configure/build stages in >> a working state, I'll have most of what people need. The install >> stage is less crucial, at least for the first version. Seems like >> people would like the system to just create a .so file in the current >> directory, and leave it at that. If I can get that working on all >> platforms I'll be very happy :-) >> >> >>> Of course, toydist is beta, and I dare say you have enough beta >>> dependencies for fwrap already :-) >>> >> >> :-) >> >> Hopefully that can be remedied that in the coming months, at least >> from the fparser and memoryview-support-in-Cython side of things. >> > > Obviously I didn't get around to that yet... > > As for the build systems, some things to consider (I have no clue myself > as to waf vs. scons): > - There's already primitive scons support for Cython, but I'm sure it > wouldn't be hard to add to waf > - Whatever you pick is likely to become the best supported build system > for Cython code in the future, I think, due to our interest in working on it > - Does waf have infrastructure for parsing files and finding > dependencies? I know that in Scons one can plug in a "Cython parser", > which checks the dependencies (which pxds are used, basically), so that > pyx files are rebuilt automatically when pxds they depend on change. I'm > sure waf supports something similar, if not I'd say it disqualifies it. > > My own hunch is that waf looks better, but scons has a larger mind share > and Cython support right now in scientific Python, and that both must be > supported eventually, so why not do scons first... *shrug* > > But like you I'm anxious to hear from more non-Cython devs as well on > this matter. > > Dag Sverre > _______________________________________________ > NumPy-Discussion mailing list > NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org > http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion >
>From a very brief look at the waf book, I don't really understand what the cross-platform capabilities of waf are http://freehackers.org/~tnagy/wafbook/single.html : "Installing Waf on a system is unnecessary and discouraged: " "Operating systems: Waf cannot be installed on Windows (yet)" Josef _______________________________________________ NumPy-Discussion mailing list NumPy-Discussion@scipy.org http://mail.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion
