On Feb 8, 2010, at 2:47 PM, Charles R Harris wrote:
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Jarrod Millman
<[email protected]> wrote:
I went ahead and set the default download for NumPy back to the 1.3.0
release on sourceforge. I also added a news item stating that 1.4.0
has temporarily been pulled due to the unintended ABI break pending a
decision by the developers. Currently, the 1.4.0 release can still be
accessed if you go to the download manager for sourceforge.
I think we need to make that decision now. It seems to have gotten
hung up in conflicts that need to be resolved. How should we go
about it? Does the numpy steering council (name?) have a role here.
It seems like consensus has been reached on making 1.4.1 an ABI
compatible release.
The remaining question is what to call the next release of NumPy 1.5
or 2.0.
I would prefer to call it 1.5 because 2.0 "sounds" like it's
significantly different from a use-level than 1.4, but it won't be.
While it is a pain to update all your packages, we just make clear
that with NumPy 1.5 you have to re-compile extensions built with it.
Yes, that is a break with what we thought would be the pattern used at
SciPy 2008, but it has been many years since an ABI break has
occurred, and I wouldn't mind updating the pattern.
I don't really like the idea of tying the version number to the ABI
number anyway. This was one reason to put an actual ABI number in
the source code to begin with (so that it could be queried
independently of the version number).
I do agree that the ABI should not change much. But, sometimes it is
unavoidable. This rare occurrence should really be independent of
the version number system which should be allowed to change
independently based on the API alterations.
I'm not really much in to "majority-wins" kinds of approaches (I much
prefer consensus when it can be reached). But, in this case I think
the majority of David, Pauli, Chuck, Robert, and I should decide the
issue.
-Travis
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