Hi,

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Peter Wang <pw...@streamitive.com> wrote:
> On Feb 15, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
>
>> Honestly - as I was saying to Alan and indirectly to Ben - any formal
>> model - at all - is preferable to the current situation. Personally, I
>> would say that making the founder of a company, which is working to
>> make money from Numpy, the only decision maker on numpy - is - scary.
>
> How is this different from the situation of the last 4 years?  Travis was 
> President at Enthought, which makes money from not only Numpy but SciPy as 
> well.  In addition to employing Travis, Enthought also employees many other 
> key contributors to Numpy and Scipy, like Robert and David.

The difference is fairly obvious to me, but stop me if I'm wrong.
First - although Enthought was in a position to influence numpy
development, it didn't very much, partly, I suppose because Travis did
not have time to contribute to numpy.  The exception is of course the
masked array stuff by Mark that caused a lot of controversy.

>  Furthermore, the Scipy and Numpy mailing lists and repos and web pages were 
> all hosted at Enthought.  If they didn't like how a particular discussion was 
> going, they could have memory-holed the entire conversation from the 
> archives, or worse yet, revoked commit access and reverted changes.

Obviously we should be realistic about the risks.   Situations like
that are very unlikely.

> But such things never transpired, and of course most of us know that such 
> things would never happen.

Right.

> I don't see why the current situation is any different from the previous 
>situation, other than the fact that Travis actually plans on actively 
>developing Numpy again, and that hardly seems scary.

It would be silly to be worried about Travis contributing to numpy, in general.

Best,

Matthew
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