On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Matthew Brett <matthew.br...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gomm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Matthew Brett <matthew.br...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> >> Can we defer the Scipy build until after the Numpy build?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > That doesn't sound like a good idea to me.
> >>
> >> I must say I'm a little confused as to how we're going to make the
> >> decisions here.
> >
> >
> > How about: attempt to reach consensus? David's concern on DLLs hasn't
> been
> > addressed yet, nor has mine on packages being unavailable. I was actually
> > still answering another of your emails, but I can't seem to reply fast
> > enough.
>
> Right - consensus is good - but at the moment I keep getting lost
> because the arguments seem to shift and get lost, and sometimes they
> are not made.
>
> So, here is the summary as I understand it, please correct if I am wrong
>
> I think we agree that:
>
> 1) Having a binary installer for numpy Windows 64 bit is desirable
> 2) It is desirable to have a matching binary installer for Scipy as
> soon as possible
> 3) It is preferable to build with free tools
> 4) It is acceptable to use non-free tools
> 5) The build will need to do some run-time linking to MKL and / or mingw
> 6) It is preferable that the build should be fully automated
> 7) It is preferable that one person can build all numpy / scipy builds
>
> The points of potential disagreement are:
>
> a) If we cannot build Scipy now, it may or may not be acceptable to
> release numpy now.  I think it is, you (Ralf) think it isn't, we
> haven't discussed that.  It may not come up.
> b) It may or may not be acceptable for someone other than Ondrej to be
> responsible for the Windows 64-bit builds.  I think it should be, if
> necessary, we haven't really discussed that, it may not come up.
> c) It may or may not be acceptable for the build to be only partially
> automated.  Ditto.
> d) It may or may not be acceptable to add the DLL directory to the
> PATH on numpy import.  David says not, Christophe disagrees, we
> haven't really discussed that.
>
> Is that right?
>

Good summary, looks complete to me.

Ralf
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