On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Benjamin Root <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Aug 11, 2013 5:02 AM, "Ralf Gommers" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 3:35 AM, Benjamin Root <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Would there be some sort of way to detect that numpy.testing wasn't > explicitly imported and issue a deprecation warning? Say, move the code > into numpy._testing, import in into the namespace as testing, but then have > the testing.py file set a flag in _testing to indicate an explicit import > has occurred? > >> > >> Eventually, even _testing would no longer get imported by default and > all will be well. > >> > >> Of course, that might be too convoluted? > > > > I'm not sure how that would work (you didn't describe how to decide that > the import was explicit), but imho the impact would be too high. > > > > Ralf > > > > The idea would be that within numpy (and we should fix SciPy as well), we > would always import numpy._testing as testing, and not import testing.py > ourselves. Then, there would be a flag in _testing.py that would be set to > emit, by default, warnings about using np.testing without an explicit > import, and stating which version all code will have to be switched by > perhaps 2.0?). > > testing.py would do a from _testing import *, but also set the flag in > _testing to not emit warnings, because only a non-numpy (and SciPy) module > would have imported it. > > It isn't foolproof. If a project has multiple dependencies that use > np.testing, and only one of them explicitly imports np.testing, then the > warning becomes hidden for the non-compliant parts. However, if we make > sure that the core SciPy projects use np._testing, it would go a long way > to get the word out. > > Again, I am just throwing it out there as an idea. The speedups we are > getting right now so far are nice, so it is entirely possible that this > kludge is just not worth the last remaining bits of extra time. > > OT: Benjamin, would you take a look at PR #3534 <http://The number of nests varies a lot here year to year. Some years the yellow jackets have nests in every little overhang, cranny, and all over the eaves. Other years there are very few. I usually leave them alone and watch their comings and goings. One year I think there was a big fight or plague because dead and dying wasps and larvae were falling onto the ground from a nest behind some siding. Honeybees can be worse, I once saw an old house where the bees had taken over the inside of a whole wall. The honey was just oozing through and dripping down the wall. That said, if I get stung I clean them buggers out. Darwinian selection in action.>. It is the continuation of your nanmean, nanvar, and nanstd work. Chuck
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