Hi Mark,

> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Francisco Webber <[email protected]> wrote:
> Still concerning the pass-through encoder:
> At various occasions I have noticed that the "pass through" functionality 
> corresponds to skipping the spacial pooler.
> In my current understanding this would not be correct.
> It is true that the output of the spatial pooler is in SDR format. But it 
> cannot be implied from there that the the spacial pooler actually SDRizes the 
> input.
> If an SDR is feed in the SP that (randomly) subsamples it, the resulting 
> output will still be a valid SDR (through the noise resistance property of 
> the initial SDR).
> If a non SDR bit pattern is subsampled the result will be looking like an SDR 
> while having lost the semantic context of the input data (lacking the NR 
> property.
> Yes, I believe a SP "just creates" a SDR, like Fergal said, this happens 
> "automatically" in neurons through inhibition.  
You then agree with me that this "creation" can just be done with an SDR input?
> 
> Another problem that I have on the conceptual level, when assuming that SDR 
> data doesn't need the SP stage is that in a hierarchy of layers the output 
> data of every layer would have the SDR format. If it  would be fed into the 
> next higher level, one could skip the SP in all subsequent higher levels , 
> leaving the question why there is an SP at all.
> Here is the second role of a SP, it subsamples/compresses the output. So for 
> a hiearchy of regions, say 10 regions have output of 1000 bits each, now that 
> makes 10000 for the new input to the higher region. SP can shrink those 10k 
> bits to say 1000 and feed it the the next TP. 
Yes this seems clear to me, this is one main purpose of hierarchies to 
"integrate" the data flow.
> 
> As SP is trained, it also handles noice at the input. 

THe noise-resitance I mentioned referred to the (desirable) properties of SDRs 
to allow missing or wrong data while still maintaining the semantics of the 
initial pattern.

Thank you for helping to understand

Francisco

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