Matt, I'm still interested in doing a Kaggle contest. I'm not sure why we did not get the momentum we needed - i assumed the Hackathon took some focus away, and it was ambitious to jump into a Kaggle contest half way to the deadline.
I thought the contest we chose, weather prediction, was an good fit for the CLA - time based prediction, practical application, good metric for comparison to other approaches. Anyway, I'm interested in selecting another Kaggle contest. I think it's a great way to prove the value of the CLA approach and the dynamics of a contest using the Kaggle framework provide an excellent platform for this. If enough members want to do this its possible we could even assemble more than one team from our forum. Thoughts? -Doug On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM, Azat <[email protected]> wrote: > Is convolutional network is NuPIC's category then. > How about preprocessing of images as linking the same digits via elastic > temporal transformations - it must be perfect in HTM's terms ? > I'm not sure it is allowed though.. > > Azat > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 11/13/13, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [nupic-dev] Kaggle team assemble > To: "NuPIC general mailing list." <[email protected]> > Date: Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 9:33 PM > > That sounds good to me. > Numenta has always been criticized[1] for not providing > comparisons between NuPIC and other ML approaches by posting > the results for standard data sets and taking part in > competitions. It would be great if we could mobilize > motivated members of the community to tackle things like > this. I've created a wiki[2] with a list of common data > sets used for ML comparisons, as well as competitions. > > > If anyone is willing to work with one of these > data sets, I would be happy to publicize your work as well > as I can. The more we can interact with the existing ML > community, the more participation we'll get from them. > > > > [1] > http://www.reddit.com/r/MachineLearning/comments/1qdu8i/cla_quiz_office_hour/[2] > https://github.com/numenta/nupic/wiki/Machine-Learning-Competitions > > > > ---------Matt > TaylorOS Community > Flag-BearerNumenta > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at > 7:11 PM, Chetan Surpur <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Matt, > I didn't actually see any communication about > it since the last email, so I'm not sure what happened. > I ended up focusing my time on preparing the Pilot framework > for the hackathon. Either way, there's not much time > left in the competition now. Maybe we can shoot for another > one? > > > > > - Chetan > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at > 7:14 AM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > So are you guys making any progress? > > > ---------Matt TaylorOS > Community Flag-BearerNumenta > > > On Tue, > Oct 22, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Chetan Surpur <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Kaggle team, > Hope everyone's okay with communicating > general stuff here, as per request. > I was thinking that we could start simply, by > just feeding in the stream of solar energy readings to the > CLA sequentially. This will allow us to see how well it does > at predicting solar energy from just the temporal sequence, > and the time of day, day of week, etc. > > > > > > > > > In parallel, someone else can learn to extract > what we need from the GEFS weather data, correlating the > weather variables with each solar energy reading time. We > can build a CSV file of all the variables together, and run > a swarm. > > > > > > > > > How does this approach sound? > I can volunteer to set up the project and start > feeding the solar energy with temporal information to the > CLA. Whoever wants to help is welcome to. Anyone up for > massaging the GEFS data as described above? > > > > > > > > > Thanks,Chetan > P.S. We still need a team > name! > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at > 9:31 PM, Tim McNamara <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > +1 > Very interested in observing this > project > On 22/10/2013 12:08 AM, > "Matthew Taylor" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Pedro et al, > > > > Unless you're actually going to be dealing with > proprietary > > information, I encourage you to have your Kaggle discussions > here on > > the mailing list. I'm sure there are others out there > interested in > > what you're doing, but unable to take part (like me). > > > > Feel free to start a new thread, or use this one, but please > use this > > list if you can. No one has complained about too many > emails... yet > > ;). > > > > --------- > > Matt Taylor > > OS Community Flag-Bearer > > Numenta > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Pedro Tabacof <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > Thank you all for the interest. I think now it's > time to create a private > > > thread for the competition. The Solar Energy > competition was the most voted > > > one so it can be our first Kaggle attempt. > > > > > > If anyone else is also interested in joining the > competition, just send me a > > > message. > > > > > > Pedro. > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Doug King <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > >> I'm interested in joining the team. I looked at > the Kaggle contests and I > > >> agree that the best choice would be Solar Energy > Prediction, but I wouldn't > > >> discount the Phone accelerometer contest. I think > its a good fit for the CLA > > >> and and interesting application. The forum posts > for that contest seem to > > >> indicate the sponsors are willing to judge a > 'clean' (no leakage) version of > > >> the contest. > > >> > > >> > > >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Jay Gokhale > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I'd love to use CLA's on a kaggle > project! > > >>> > > >>> If Chetan's description is correct, it > seems to me that the Solar Energy > > >>> Prediction contest would be the most straight > forward one to work on. > > >>> > > >>> Jay Gokhale > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Matthew Taylor > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> These also sound like good hackathon > projects! > > >>>> > > >>>> Matt > > >>>> > > >>>> Sent from my MegaPhone > > >>>> > > >>>> On Oct 16, 2013, at 8:03 PM, Chetan Surpur > <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> I'm interested in participating! > > >>>> > > >>>> I haven't decided on one yet, but I > wanted to point out that the CLA > > >>>> looks ideally suited for the AMS 2013-2014 > Solar Energy Prediction contest. > > >>>> From what I can tell, it's about > predicting the daily energy output of solar > > >>>> farms from 12, 15, 18, 21, 24-hourly > training data. There's 29 days to go. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Pedro > Tabacof <[email protected]> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Hello, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> After the warm reception of the Kaggle > competition idea, I decided to > > >>>>> create the thread asap. For those who > are not aware, Kaggle is a data mining > > >>>>> competition website. It has been hyped > on the machine learning media and has > > >>>>> some great people participating in it. > It rewards with different prizes, but > > >>>>> my focus is not earn money, but rather > to see how good NuPIC would fare > > >>>>> against the state of the art. I found > those following competitions to be a > > >>>>> viable start: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 1) Accelerometer Biometric Competition > > >>>>> From real acceleration data you have to > guess from which cell phone > > >>>>> came the test samples. > > >>>>> 36 days to go > > >>>>> Pros: > > >>>>> -Multivariable, temporal data seems > ideal for the CLA > > >>>>> Cons: > > >>>>> -The best competitors are using data > leaks (meta-information), so the > > >>>>> chance of winning fairly is zero > (though they will give a consolation prize > > >>>>> to the best "honest" entry) > > >>>>> Questions: > > >>>>> -How fast would NuPIC go through a 1GB > CSV file? > > >>>>> -The test data is not open-ended, that > is, you have to say whether a > > >>>>> recording belongs to a specific cell > phone or not, with 50% chance of being > > >>>>> right. Would NuPIC do well in this > case? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 2) Multi-Label Bird Species > Classification > > >>>>> Try to guess the bird species present > on some audio recordings > > >>>>> 38 days to go > > >>>>> Pros: > > >>>>> -Temporal data > > >>>>> Cons: > > >>>>> -Multiple labels, so I think we would > need 87 different models, which > > >>>>> is kinda impractical > > >>>>> Question: > > >>>>> -Is there a better way to do > multi-label classification with NuPIC? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> 3) Conway's Reverse Game of Life > > >>>>> Reverse the game of life for 1 to 5 > steps > > >>>>> 4 months to go > > >>>>> Pros: > > >>>>> -Natural input sparseness (have to > check on it) > > >>>>> -Temporal data > > >>>>> -Multistep classification > > >>>>> -We can generate our own training data > if necessary > > >>>>> Cons: > > >>>>> -Maybe there are very straightforward > ways to solve this (rule based, > > >>>>> brute force, etc) > > >>>>> -Too much time before the competition > ends > > >>>>> Questions: > > >>>>> -How sparse does the input need to be > for the CLA to work well? > > >>>>> -Is it possible to use a 2D arrangement > on the cells connection matrix? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> There is also the AMS 2013-2014 Solar > Energy Prediction contest, but I > > >>>>> didn't have time to go over it. The > other competitions don't seem to be > > >>>>> suited for NuPIC. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Who here is interested on participating > and what competition do you > > >>>>> think to be the most promising one? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Pedro. > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> Pedro Tabacof, > > >>>>> Unicamp - Eng. de Computação 08. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>>>> nupic mailing list > > >>>>> [email protected] > > >>>>> http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>>> nupic mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>>> nupic mailing list > > >>>> [email protected] > > >>>> http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> nupic mailing list > > >>> [email protected] > > >>> http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> nupic mailing list > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Pedro Tabacof, > > > Unicamp - Eng. de Computação 08. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > nupic mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nupic mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nupic mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nupic mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nupic mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > nupic mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > _______________________________________________ > nupic mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > > > _______________________________________________ > nupic mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org >
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