Can someone explain which parts of NuPIC they think are "clean" and which they want to get rid of? With the exception of the current effort around the spatial pooler I don't know which parts are being referred to.
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Sebastian Hänisch <[email protected]>wrote: > Some explorative redesigning can be a true benefit to the current NuPIC, > too. Some coordinated brainstorming can lead to a better design of > 'NuNuPIC' with an extensive API and a more modular code basis. This would > be a base for discussion whether a complete restart is the way to go or > maybe it reveals easy ways to restructure the current version without > robbing away the base for Grok. > > This can be done aside from NuPIC and wouldn't influence it currently > (though some ideas may find themselve implemented there directly). > > As Newcomer to NuPIC I'm just throwing in my 2 cents of course. > > Regards, > Sebastian > > > > 2013/11/15 Fergal Byrne <[email protected]> > >> Hi Matt/Stewart, >> >> I think the radical approach is worth exploring, but keep it within >> NuPIC. You'd need to start with a design, and then build it up by robbing >> the clean algorithms from the current NuPIC. Eventually Grok would switch >> to the NuNuPIC. >> — >> Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> for iPhone >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Numenta's interests lie >>> in improving NuPIC. We won't be able to get behind a start-from-scratch >>> effort. We just don't have the manpower, and we're quite busy building >>> product on top of NuPIC. >>> >>> That being said, there is nothing stopping anyone else from doing this. >>> If someone extracts our core algorithms and pastes them into another >>> project, however, the GPL must be respected, and Numenta will not be able >>> to provide any commercial licensing options. >>> >>> --------- >>> Matt Taylor >>> OS Community Flag-Bearer >>> Numenta >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Stewart Mackenzie >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Been (carefully) thinking about this more, it's occupying a >>>> disproportionately large amount of time. >>>> >>>> I'm going to go one step further: >>>> >>>> The proof of concept works, NuPIC has cracked it to a large degree. But >>>> its based on an old codebase that went through a few fundamental >>>> architectural changes. It doesn't support serialization nor can operate in >>>> a hierarchy. >>>> Most of the issues are about compilation, incompatibilities, the code >>>> base is dependency heavy yet... despite all this the algorthims have got it >>>> right. >>>> >>>> I propose we retain the core algorithms and start from scratch. Its the >>>> algorithms that are important. >>>> >>>> What I have brewing will make a distributed HTM dramanically easier to >>>> achieve, serialization becomes trivial and it is portable. If nupic is >>>> about to do some major move. Then lets at least think about how to make it >>>> easier to distribute and serialize. >>>> >>>> Insane as it sounds. >>>> Stewart >>>> >>>> Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >Thanks, Stewart. >>>> > >>>> >I think we should put the discussion about releases to the side for >>>> >awhile, >>>> >because it's evident that we cannot release until we've nailed down the >>>> >API >>>> >for NuPIC. This should take priority. I'll start that discussion soon. >>>> > >>>> >This has been quite enlightening, and I really appreciate everyone's >>>> >input. >>>> > >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nupic mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org >>>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nupic mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > nupic mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.numenta.org/mailman/listinfo/nupic_lists.numenta.org > >
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