> the issue you faced is that it can't create hundreds of models at the same time (like its done by the traffic example) because instantiate a Network object from Htm.java is an expensive operation that turns the JVM unresponsive.
What is being implied here? Are you saying that instantiating HTM.java is anymore expensive than instantiating any other medium weight application? Cheers, David On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:05 AM, M.Lucchetta <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Matt, folks > > You can currently use Htm-MoClu in just one computer, the issue you faced > is that it can't create hundreds of models at the same time (like its done > by the traffic example) because instantiate a Network object from Htm.java > is an expensive operation that turns the JVM unresponsive. > > I'm currently working on the Release Candidate (v 1.0.0) and the only > thing missing from your specs is: > > `allows POST of full model params` > > Will chat over Gitter to get more details on this. > > You can find an example of its usage in https://github.com/antidata/ATAD > it uses the Lift Web Framework (Comet Actors) to push updates to the > browser in real time (similar to web sockets proposition) and saves the > requests + results into MongoDB so you can query both the data coming from > outside and the data generated from HTM (anomaly score + predictions). > One last comment is that Htm-Moclu is web framework agnostic, you can use > any web framework that works on the JVM. > > Feel free to ping me if any of you like to contribute to this project. > > Thanks! > > On 7 December 2015 at 08:36, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Ok folks, let's move discussion of the implementation to Github. First >> question to answer is which HTM implementation to use: >> https://github.com/nupic-community/htm-over-http/issues/2 >> >> Anyone else reading this is free to jump in and help out, but I want >> to define our work properly using Github issues so we all know what is >> happening and who is working on what. >> --------- >> Matt Taylor >> OS Community Flag-Bearer >> Numenta >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 10:25 PM, Jonathan Mackenzie <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Sounds like a good app Matt, I can help out. Personally, for getting an >> web >> > app off the ground quickly in python I recommend pyramid: >> > http://www.pylonsproject.org/ >> > >> > On 7 December 2015 at 03:31, Matthew Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> Thanks for the interest! I'll try to respond to everyone in this >> >> email. But first, who reading this would want to use an HTM over HTTP >> >> service like this? It means that you won't need to have HTM running on >> >> the same system that is generating the data. It's basically HTM in the >> >> Cloud. :) >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Marcus Lewis <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > I'm interested in HTTP GET, inspecting models. >> >> >> >> Great feature to add after a minimum viable product has been created, >> >> but this adds the complexity of either caching or persistence >> >> (depending on how much history you want). >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:03 PM, cogmission (David Ray) >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > One thing I am concerned about is the call/answer nature of the >> >> > interface >> >> > you describe because of the latency involved in a >> >> > submit-one-row-per-call >> >> > methodology? Should it not be able to "batch" process rows of data >> >> > instead? >> >> > (batches could contain one row if you were dedicated to being a >> >> > masochist)? >> >> >> >> Yes, we will eventually need that, but I don't need it in the >> >> prototype. Let's focus on one row at a time and expand to batching >> >> later. >> >> >> >> > Next, at Cortical we use a technology called DropWizard which makes >> it >> >> > very >> >> > easy to deploy an HTTP server capable of Restful queries (I have done >> >> > this >> >> > for Twitter processing involving HTM.java). >> >> >> >> If this is going to use NuPIC and python, I have found that it's super >> >> easy to set up REST with web.py [1]. Just a matter for writing a class >> >> and a few functions. For REST on the JVM, I am open for suggestions. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Pascal Weinberger >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > Like a extended version of HTM engine? >> >> > This would be the solution to the htmengine prediction issue :) >> >> >> >> If we chose the HTM Engine option, then yes we would need to add some >> >> features to HTM Engine, especially prediction and user-defined model >> >> params. This is not a little job, but it would be great to have a >> >> scaling platform already built into the HTTP server. I would be happy >> >> even if we just started with an attempt to make HTM Engine (and the >> >> HTTP server in the skeleton app) deployable to a the cloud. Even with >> >> it's current capabilities, I could start using it immediately and we >> >> could add features over time. >> >> >> >> > Will you set up a repo in the community? :) >> >> >> >> Placeholder: https://github.com/nupic-community/htm-over-http >> >> >> >> Let's continue discussion on Gitter [2]. Our first decision is to >> >> decide which HTM implementation to use. I am leaning towards HTM >> >> Engine because it would take the smallest amount of effort to do the >> >> deployment configuration around it and get an MVP running the fastest >> >> (even if it doesn't to prediction or custom model params out of the >> >> box). >> >> >> >> IMO the best way to attack this is to get something minimal running >> >> ASAP and add features as required. >> >> >> >> [1] http://webpy.org/ >> >> [2] https://gitter.im/nupic-community/htm-over-http >> >> --------- >> >> Matt Taylor >> >> OS Community Flag-Bearer >> >> Numenta >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jonathan Mackenzie >> > BEng (Software) Hons >> > PhD Candidate, Flinders University >> >> > -- *With kind regards,* David Ray Java Solutions Architect *Cortical.io <http://cortical.io/>* Sponsor of: HTM.java <https://github.com/numenta/htm.java> [email protected] http://cortical.io
