Hi Bill, well at least you now have a fully operating, starts-on-reboot driver - so that is progress. One thing we need to know which I asked but you've not answered: "Did you need to add the environment drop-in file? At which step did it work?" The answer to that may change next step.

nut-server *should* just work if there is a driver available and running.

OK, run:

 systemctl disable nut-server (stop it trying to run automatically)
 upsd -DD

And then Ctrl-C to stop it once you have got output to screen with startup messages.

Then copy back here the output from upsd -DD, preferably without truncating lines which your mail client seems to do :(

I'm pretty sure that nut-server is using /var/run as its STATEPATH. Can you also include your upsd.conf, minus commented lines.

Simon.

----- Message from Bill Gee <[email protected]> ---------
   Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2022 06:14:10 -0600
   From: Bill Gee <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsuser] NUT no longer works after 2.7 -> 2.8 upgrade
     To: [email protected]


Hi Simon -

I modified /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nut-client to use /run instead of /var/run. I checked the startup status of the nut services.

=================
[root@mythtv ~]# systemctl list-unit-files | grep -i nut
nut-driver-enumerator.path  enabled         disabled
nut-driver-enumerator.service  enabled         disabled
[email protected]  indirect        disabled
nut-monitor.service  disabled        disabled
nut-server.service  enabled         disabled
nut-driver.target  disabled        disabled
nut.target  disabled        disabled
==========================

I did a shutdown/reboot on the system. The usbhid driver loaded without errors and did not complain about /var/run. /run/nut exists and contains the expected two files.

nut-server also started since it is set to "enabled", but failed to connect to the driver. It complains about "no such file or directory". What file is it looking for? I ran journalctl on it but got nothing more than what systemctl status reports.

===========================
[root@mythtv ~]# systemctl status nut-driver@cyberpower
[email protected] - Network UPS Tools - device driver for NUT device 'cyberpower' Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/[email protected]; enabled; preset: disabled)
    Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/[email protected]
             └─environ.conf
             /etc/systemd/system/[email protected]
└─nut-driver-enumerator-generated-checksum.conf, nut-driver-enumerator-generated.conf
     Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-12-01 05:56:04 CST; 9min ago
Process: 712 ExecStartPre=/usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles --create /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nut-client.conf (code=exited, stat> Process: 719 ExecStart=/bin/sh -c NUTDEV="`/usr/libexec/nut-driver-enumerator.sh --get-device-for-service cyberpowe>
   Main PID: 791 (usbhid-ups)
      Tasks: 1 (limit: 9482)
     Memory: 2.9M
        CPU: 113ms
CGroup: /system.slice/system-nut\x2ddriver.slice/[email protected]
             └─791 /usr/sbin/usbhid-ups -a cyberpower

Dec 01 05:56:04 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[787]: Using subdriver: CyberPower HID 0.6 Dec 01 05:56:04 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[787]: Network UPS Tools - Generic HID driver 0.47 (2.8.0) Dec 01 05:56:04 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[787]: USB communication driver (libusb 1.0) 0.43 Dec 01 05:56:04 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[787]: cps_adjust_battery_scale: battery readings will be sca> Dec 01 05:56:04 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[719]: Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.8.0
Dec 01 05:56:04 mythtv.billgee.local usbhid-ups[791]: Startup successful

[root@mythtv ~]# systemctl status nut-server
● nut-server.service - Network UPS Tools - power devices information server
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/nut-server.service; enabled; preset: disabled)
     Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-12-01 05:56:07 CST; 9min ago
   Main PID: 809 (upsd)
      Tasks: 1 (limit: 9482)
     Memory: 1000.0K
        CPU: 15ms
     CGroup: /system.slice/nut-server.service
             └─809 /usr/sbin/upsd -F

Dec 01 05:56:08 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[809]: listening on ::1 port 3493
Dec 01 05:56:08 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[809]: listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493 Dec 01 05:56:08 mythtv.billgee.local nut-server[809]: /var/run is world readable Dec 01 05:56:08 mythtv.billgee.local nut-server[809]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): No suc>
Dec 01 05:56:08 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[809]: /var/run is world readable
Dec 01 05:56:08 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[809]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): No such file> Dec 01 05:56:10 mythtv.billgee.local nut-server[809]: Running as foreground process, not saving a PID file Dec 01 05:56:10 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[809]: Running as foreground process, not saving a PID file Dec 01 06:01:08 mythtv.billgee.local nut-server[809]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): No suc> Dec 01 06:01:08 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[809]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): No such file>
================================



===============
Bill Gee

On 11/30/22 21:14, Simon Wilson via Nut-upsuser wrote:
----- Message from Bill Gee <[email protected]> ---------
   Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 19:26:46 -0600
   From: Bill Gee <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsuser] NUT no longer works after 2.7 -> 2.8 upgrade
     To: [email protected]


Hi Simon -

I ran through the steps you gave below.  To quote Gilbert&Sullivan ... "Modified Rapture!"  I suppose I should try a reboot to make sure everything starts properly.

Not yet with the reboot. Baby steps... :) you have a driver running from the service file! Celebrations are in order.

Did you need to add the environment drop-in file? At which step did it work?

But first, there is a problem with upsc. Also nut-server complains that it cannot connect to the device.

Ok, that's next... your comments are wrong way around :) nut-server not starting is why upsc doesn't give you anything.


/run/nut exists and contains two files.

Here are some outputs:

======================================
[root@mythtv ~]# journalctl -u [email protected] -f
Nov 30 19:00:20 mythtv.billgee.local systemd[1]: Starting [email protected] - Network UPS Tools - device driver for NUT device 'cyberpower'... Nov 30 19:00:20 mythtv.billgee.local systemd-tmpfiles[28689]: /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nut-client.conf:2: Line references path below legacy directory /var/run/, updating /var/run/nut → /run/nut; please update the tmpfiles.d/ drop-in file accordingly.

That line is the "noise" error I mentioned. Edit /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nut-client.conf to read /run/nut, not /var/run/nut

Nov 30 19:00:20 mythtv.billgee.local systemd-tmpfiles[28689]: /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nut-client.conf:3: Line references path below legacy directory /var/run/, updating /var/run/nut → /run/nut; please update the tmpfiles.d/ drop-in file accordingly.

Ditto, although you probably don't need line 3 in the file anyway.

Nov 30 19:00:21 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[28719]: Using subdriver: CyberPower HID 0.6 Nov 30 19:00:21 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[28719]: Network UPS Tools - Generic HID driver 0.47 (2.8.0) Nov 30 19:00:21 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[28719]: USB communication driver (libusb 1.0) 0.43 Nov 30 19:00:21 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[28719]: cps_adjust_battery_scale: battery readings will be scaled by 2/3
Nov 30 19:00:21 mythtv.billgee.local usbhid-ups[28769]: Startup successful
Nov 30 19:00:21 mythtv.billgee.local nut-driver@cyberpower[28691]: Network UPS Tools - UPS driver controller 2.8.0 Nov 30 19:00:21 mythtv.billgee.local systemd[1]: Started [email protected] - Network UPS Tools - device driver for NUT device 'cyberpower'.

[root@mythtv ups]# ll /run/nut
total 4
srw-rw---- 1 nut nut 0 Nov 30 19:00 usbhid-ups-cyberpower
-rw-r--r-- 1 nut nut 6 Nov 30 19:00 usbhid-ups-cyberpower.pid


[root@mythtv ups]# systemctl --no-pager --full status nut-server
● nut-server.service - Network UPS Tools - power devices information server
     Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/nut-server.service; enabled; preset: disabled)
     Active: active (running) since Wed 2022-11-30 19:06:53 CST; 13min ago
   Main PID: 28918 (upsd)
      Tasks: 1 (limit: 9482)
     Memory: 736.0K
        CPU: 20ms
     CGroup: /system.slice/nut-server.service
             └─28918 /usr/sbin/upsd -F

Nov 30 19:06:53 mythtv.billgee.local nut-server[28918]: /var/run is world readable Nov 30 19:06:53 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[28918]: /var/run is world readable Nov 30 19:06:53 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[28918]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): Connection refused Nov 30 19:06:53 mythtv.billgee.local nut-server[28918]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): Connection refused Nov 30 19:06:53 mythtv.billgee.local nut-server[28918]: Running as foreground process, not saving a PID file Nov 30 19:06:53 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[28918]: Running as foreground process, not saving a PID file Nov 30 19:11:53 mythtv.billgee.local nut-server[28918]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): Connection refused Nov 30 19:11:53 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[28918]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): Connection refused Nov 30 19:16:53 mythtv.billgee.local nut-server[28918]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): Connection refused Nov 30 19:16:53 mythtv.billgee.local upsd[28918]: Can't connect to UPS [cyberpower] (usbhid-ups-cyberpower): Connection refused

[root@mythtv ups]# ps ax | grep ups
    768 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/cupsd -l
    773 ?        Ss     0:00 sshd: /usr/sbin/sshd -D [listener] 0 of 10-100 startups
  28769 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/usbhid-ups -a cyberpower
  28918 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/upsd -F
  28929 pts/1    S+     0:00 grep --color=auto ups

[root@mythtv ups]# upsc cyberpower@localhost
Error: Driver not connected

upsc won't work without nut-server running, so this is expected based on the above failure to start nut-server.




So... next.

Fix nut-client.conf contents, and make sure that you can start / restart the driver as needed with no errors. Set [email protected] to enabled for autostart, so with ONLY the enumerator services and [email protected] enabled, you should see something like the following for 'systemctl list-unit-files | grep -i nut':

[root@emp80 ups]# systemctl list-unit-files | grep -i nut
nut-driver-enumerator.path enabled nut-driver-enumerator.service enabled [email protected] indirect nut-monitor.service disabled nut-server.service disabled nut-driver.target disabled nut.target disabled

Stop any running nut processes, and reboot. On reboot the only thing that should autostart is [email protected] (from the 'indirect' call via [email protected]). upsc will still not work.

Monitor the driver for a while 'journalctl -u [email protected] -f' and make sure it is stable and stays connected - google searches show some flakiness with some cyberpower UPSs.

Once you are confident that the driver is reliable, starting OK and staying up then move on to nut-server.

I'll check in this evening and we can do some more digging on that.

Simon


===============
Bill Gee

On 11/30/22 07:21, Simon Wilson via Nut-upsuser wrote:
Comments inline.

----- Message from Bill Gee <[email protected]> ---------
   Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 06:04:14 -0600
   From: Bill Gee <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsuser] NUT no longer works after 2.7 -> 2.8 upgrade
     To: [email protected]


Hi Simon --

Yes, I am pretty sure this is the RedHat packaging problem.  I sure hope they get it squared away.  I have only one system using nut and that is because all my other systems have APC battery backup and run apcupsd. Apcupsd may be old, grey and unmaintained, but it Just Works.

You mention that the STATEPATH line in upsd.conf will override other settings.  It does not appear to be the case for me.  The only way I could get the driver to run was by setting NUT_STATEPATH on the command line.  Perhaps that is an issue with the driver and not nut-server?

In answer to your questions:

1) /usr/lib/systemd/system/[email protected] exists.  I have made no changes to it so far.  Here are the contents, unfortunately line-wrapped by Thunderbird.

================================
[root@mythtv system]# grep -v '^#' [email protected]
[Unit]
Description=Network UPS Tools - device driver for %I
After=local-fs.target


PartOf=nut-driver.target


[Service]
EnvironmentFile=-/etc/ups/nut.conf
SyslogIdentifier=%N
ExecStartPre=-/usr/bin/systemd-tmpfiles --create /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nut-client.conf ExecStart=/bin/sh -c 'NUTDEV="`/usr/libexec/nut-driver-enumerator.sh --get-device-for-service %i`" && [ -n "$NUTDEV" ] || { echo "FATAL: Could not find a NUT device section for service unit %i" >&2 ; exit 1 ; } ; /usr/sbin/upsdrvctl start "$NUTDEV"' ExecStop=/bin/sh -c 'NUTDEV="`/usr/libexec/nut-driver-enumerator.sh --get-device-for-service %i`" && [ -n "$NUTDEV" ] || { echo "FATAL: Could not find a NUT device section for service unit %i" >&2 ; exit 1 ; } ; /usr/sbin/upsdrvctl stop "$NUTDEV"'
StartLimitInterval=0
Restart=always
RestartSec=15s
Type=forking

[Install]
WantedBy=nut-driver.target
===================================

OK, so that's the same as mine. It's ExecStartPre task is to create the pid folder from your answer to the third (unasked) question :) which is that outlined in /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nut-client.conf

You have /var/run/nut 0770 root nut - so systemd should ensure that exists.

By the way, having it with "/var/run/nut" will trigger a 'noise' error about the "/var" path - change it to just be /run/nut in nut-client.conf.

As a test, what happens if you:

- make sure nut.conf has MODE=standalone
- make sure ALL nut services are stopped, i.e. 'ps -ax | grep ups' should give you only the grep process as an answer
- delete /run/nut folder (it will get re-created automatically)
- take /etc/ups/upsd.conf back to have commented out STATEPATH as distributed in the package - run "systemctl enable nut-driver-enumerator.path nut-driver-enumerator.service --now" - this will enable and start the services that monitor ups.conf for changes and then write the actual driver service file; the second one also runs early in boot and ensures that the service file exists and is correct. - run 'nut-scanner -U' and copy its output into ups.conf instead of your current definition with name heading [cyberpower], save and exit: this will trigger the above enumerators to run and re-do the [email protected] file

Based on an out of the box install, you have at this point done enough that the driver should run (*should*!!!!)

- run "journalctl -u [email protected] -f" in one terminal while you run "systemctl start [email protected]" in another - what does journalctl output?

Assuming it does not start (based on what you have said below), show the messages.

If it still does not start as configured above, but you \can/ run /usr/sbin/usbhid-ups with your environment variables specified like you had done before, and it *does* run, then do the following steps to create a systemd drop-in file for the variable, but make the steps use /run/nut instead of /var/run/nut: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127269#c8  (comment 8, formatted for ease of reading). You want to get back to the RH/Fedora default of using /run/nut, not /var/state/ups

  1. uncomment the "STATEPATH /var/run/nut" as already mentioned
  2. create: /etc/systemd/system/[email protected]/environ.conf
   with these two lines:

    [Service]
    Environment=NUT_STATEPATH=/var/run/nut

  3. and finally do: systemctl daemon-reload

...then try and run systemctl start [email protected] again, while monitoring journalctl.


If that does not work - then I'm out of ideas at this point lol... :-D

'set' has nothing BTW on my working system related to nut.


2) In /etc/ups/upsd.conf, the original STATEPATH line is

STATEPATH /var/run/nut

Right now the original line is commented and I added another line to point at /var/state/ups.

3) You only asked two questions, but I sense a third might be important.  Originally the system had /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nut-common.conf.  I have modified that file and no longer have the original.  I copied that file to nut-client.conf, and both have the same contents:

=======================
# State file (e.g. upsd to driver) and pidfile location for NUT:
D /var/run/nut 0770 root nut - -
X /var/run/nut
========================

4) And one more unasked question!  :-)  When I look at the environment variables on the system, I see this:

========================
[root@mythtv tmpfiles.d]# set | grep -i nut
_=/etc/ups/nut.conf
========================



Bill Gee

On 11/30/22 01:20, Simon Wilson via Nut-upsuser wrote:
----- Message from Bill Gee <[email protected]> ---------
   Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 19:25:19 -0600
   From: Bill Gee <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Nut-upsuser] NUT no longer works after 2.7 -> 2.8 upgrade
     To: Jim Klimov <[email protected]>
     Cc: Arnaud Quette via Nut-upsuser <[email protected]>


I got it to run, but what a mess ...

Yes, I am running systemctl daemon-reload and systemctl restart nut-server after each change I make.


Hi Bill,

Drivers and upsd share defaults (see 'man nutupsdrv').

Your original error message ("writepid: fopen /var/run/usbhid-ups-cyberpower.pid: Permission denied") would seem to indicate, same as the Red Hat bug, that your driver's default pid path is /var/run.

The driver by default uses STATEPATH (which can be over-ridden in upsd.conf) to store pid files. The driver .service file is supposed to make sure that path exists by running the ExecStartPre line, which gets its instructions from the referenced ".conf" file from /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d. The .service file then calls 'upsdrvctl start' to start your usbhid-ups driver, as defined in ups.conf. Those all need to align...

2 x questions:

1. Without its comments, what are the active lines (as installed, without any changes) in /usr/lib/systemd/system/[email protected] (or wherever that service file is located on your system)? 2. in your upsd.conf (also as installed, without any changes), what is the commented out STATEPATH you later mention uncommenting?

I created /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/nut-client.conf   The owner is root:root and permissions are 0644.  The contents are

# State file (e.g. upsd to driver) and pidfile location for NUT:
D /var/run/nut 0770 root nut - -
X /var/run/nut

I uncommented the STATEPATH line in /etc/ups/upsd.conf.

I created a directory /var/state/ups, set to 777 permissions. Changed the STATEPATH line in upsd.conf.  No success.

I looked at /usr/lib/systemd/system/[email protected] but could not see any changes to be made.  The bug report at RedHat mentions that a file identified in ExecStartPre does not exist, but I could not duplicate.

I tried running this as root:

NUT_STATEPATH=/var/state/ups NUT_ALTPIDPATH=/var/state/ups /usr/sbin/usbhid-ups -u nut -g nut -s cyberpower -x port=auto

And it works.  I tried it with only one or the other of the two environment variables, but did not work.  It has to have both.

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