On Mon, 9 Jan 2023, Greg Troxel wrote:

Specifically, I find all of this to be noise:
upsmon startup:
 Network UPS Tools upsmon 2.8.0.1
again, all knowable statically from config.

upsd:
 Network UPS Tools upsd 2.8.0.1
 listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493
 listening on ::1 port 3493
 Connected to UPS [foo]: bestfortress-foo
 Found 1 UPS defined in ups.conf
again, all what was configured.

And a question from me:
 Have you ever had a situation where the above verbose info, printed on
 stdout/stderr, was useful in diagnosing a previous problematic
 shutdown (a real one, not a testing one)?  If so please describe.

1. There is a difference between once-only verbiage and once every hour verbiage. Its the every-hour stuff that should not appear by default.

2. The once-only lines confirm that the configuration is correctly set up.

3. Its not just the problematic shutdowns that need help, but also the broken set-ups.

Cars are required to have indicators that left/right turn signals are operating. One can argue that they are "noise" since the driver is supposed to know that he/she is turning left/right. But a confirmation is deemed essential for safe driving. It seems to me that logging « Network UPS Tools upsd 2.8.0.1 listening on 127.0.0.1 port 3493 listening on ::1 port 3493 » is also essential for safe shutdown management.

Roger
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