On 5/13/25 21:05, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
gene heskett via Nut-upsuser writes:
However debians legendary slowness to update things does test my
patience at times. The fact that bookworms default nut is 2.8.0 is an
example.
That sounds familiar. Debian's been shipping very old versions of my
packages, which was …irritating. I am not being accusatory, I
understand that it's all volunteer work, and most of the time …there
was no volunteer. But it was still a problem for me.
I solved this problem by boning up, learning how to create deb
packages, then including a script in my tarballs that create deb
packages from their own tarballs – very similar to how including a
package.spec in the tarball allows rpmbuild to build installable rpms
directly from the tarball: "rpmbuild -ta package-version.tar.bz2", sit
back, and wait for the binary rpms to be created.
As far as I know debuild doesn't have anything comparable to this, but
what I hacked up came pretty close. The report from the field was that
non-developers are able to use it. And this solved the "old packages
in Debian" issue and made it go away, for the most part. I only made
sure that what I did was not going to interfere with anything a real,
honest to goodness, Debian or Ubuntu maintainer needs to do, so when
one shows up, occasionally, from time to time, it stays out of their way.
Unfortunately this is not something that works generically, the script
is tailored specifically to the tarball's contents. But that's the
general solution to addressing old stuff in Debian or Ubuntu.
Well i have been in the past, able to build from the tarballs but will
readily admit that at 90 yo, its getting less and less appetizing.
However when 2.8.3 is out, I might give it a shot if I can actually get
Jim's output. Or possibly switch distro's. Debian has about worn me
out. I have a time wasting bug that no one on this ball of rock & water
can duplicate.
Thanks Sam V.
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