Hi Charles -

The APC units I have are dumb-serial. Back-UPS 500, Back-UPS-600 and Back-UPS-650. They use serial cable 940-0020B. They are listed in apcupsd as "Dumb UPS". The sticker on the back says "Model BK650MC".

Reading through the docs you linked, I cannot tell for sure if these are supported.

Here is a sample output from apcupsd:
=======================
Date Range: yesterday
 APC      : 001,018,0458
 DATE     : 2026-02-07 07:46:29 -0600
 HOSTNAME : zoneminder2
 VERSION  : 3.14.14 (31 May 2016) redhat
 UPSNAME  : zoneminder2
 CABLE    : APC Cable 940-0020B
 DRIVER   : DUMB UPS Driver
 UPSMODE  : Stand Alone
 STARTTIME: 2026-02-07 07:46:24 -0600
 STATUS   : ONLINE
 MBATTCHG : 5 Percent
 MINTIMEL : 3 Minutes
 MAXTIME  : 0 Seconds
 NUMXFERS : 0
 TONBATT  : 0 Seconds
 CUMONBATT: 0 Seconds
 XOFFBATT : N/A
 STATFLAG : 0x05000008
 END APC  : 2026-02-12 03:29:01 -0600
=========================

===============
Bill Gee

On 2/11/26 21:53, Charles Lepple wrote:
On Feb 6, 2026, at 1:18 PM, Bill Gee wrote:

I have several VERY old APC devices - so old they use serial ports for 
monitoring.  I would love to get them off apcupsd, but nothing else will work.  
They support fairly modern Linux systems - Fedora 43 and Alma 9.

Interestingly, NUT has *two* serial APC drivers, and I vaguely remember that 
there are older units that fall through the cracks even with those two:

- https://networkupstools.org/docs/man/apcsmart.html (has some tips for 
identifying generations)
- https://networkupstools.org/docs/man/apcsmart-old.html

That said, between the logs from the working apcupsd code, and debug logs from 
maybe apcsmart-old, we should be able to figure something out.



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