On Thu, 10 Sep 2026, Jim Klimov wrote:
> By the way, while we are on this standards-related topic: there was an idea
> to extend the protocol with a notification
> from client to server like "LOGOUT PENDING" (now probably also "DETACH
> PENDING"), so the server would know not to wait
> somehow for a lost client - tracked in
> https://github.com/networkupstools/nut/issues/3102. Does any wording in RFC
> 9271, and
> the practice about standardized protocols in general, prevent such extensions
> of existing commands with new options (or
> introduction of new commands like "LOGOUT_PENDING", if extensions are a
> no-no)?
RFC 9271 is Informational. It is fixed and cannot be revised. Updating RFC
9271 requires a rewrite, a new IETF approval process and a new number. Given
* the continuing interest in the RFC,
* the habit of treating the RFC as if it were a Standard,
* the emergence of UPS's with an Attachment Daemon (upsd) included,
* the interest in conformance suites,
* the renewed interest in security,
* the proposal to introduce new Commands,
the NUT project could well consider a rewrite of 9271 as Standards Track work,
but this requires a more formal and structured effort working in parallel with
development. Not just one guy in a corner with his text.
The 9271 text would obviously be version 1 of NUT-Standard. (9271 went through
15 versions.)
In a possible future NUT-Standard working group, the editor must follow the
IETF
process. The IETF allow XML input to the publication process, and there is a
tool xml2rfc to validate the XML before submission. This is converted to HTML
with the style file included in the HTML for publication on the rfc-editor.org
site. XML is a poor and complex language so I worked in SGML with a relaxed
grammar (DTD) which is much easier once one passes the learning curve. I used
the well known SGML parser sgmlnorm to compile to the IETF's XML. The Makefile
also checked the XML with tool xml2rfc.
No, I am not a volunteer to be the editor of the new RFC. Cheers, Roger
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