On 7/4/07, Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, I do not believe that nutch should not hit a 1.0 until it is
truly stable.    Using a version number as a selling point is what
makes people use to using beta branded software (google, ms, my
company, and everyone else are all guilty) as production software with
even worse EULAs.

IMHO 1.0 is the right way to go. Andrzej has summerized the reasons very well.
I just like to add one more thing when I meet real world customers
they often ask "is the product 1.0 ?" i.e. will there be Major API changes? I
believe 1.0 will make more "wider usage" of Nutch in corporate segments i.e.
large doc set, different types etc.

I would have like to have seen a plan, or feature list that shows what
nutch 1.0 is suppose to satisfy.  I would also love to become part of
the nutch dev team.  I have torn many pieces of it apart already and
have a pretty darn good idea of how it works.


Start submitting great patches and you will soon be a part of the team :-)

One thing I would love to do in the future of nutch is to get rid of
all the custom '*-config.xml" files and replace it with a more
standard (well, more accepted) DI container (such as spring or
hivemind [probably hivemind]).  It would be nice to be able to
configure each component within nutch in this way.  I think it would
really help in "componentizing" the apis (fetcher, indexer, generator
etc) so that they can have more implemenations and making plugins more
manageable.


I kind of like the way config works actually. Its not a hassle at all.
Yes when you
are doing testing etc you would like to change things in a easy way.
But in production you don't change these values. Again you might have
a great idea
so submit a patch please.

Regards
Rajesh





On 7/4/07, Andrzej Bialecki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nuther wrote:
> > Hi, Andrzej.
> >
> > You wrote 4 июля 2007 г., 11:56:25:
> >
> >> Doug Cutting wrote:
> >>> Will the next release really be 1.0 or will it be 0.10?
> >
> >> Really 1.0.
>
> To elaborate a bit - IMHO we shouldn't stay at 0.x releases any longer,
> because it gives a false impression that Nutch is far from being usable.
>
> I know there is a fashion in OSS community to keep release numbers below
> 1.0, perhaps because commercial software usually inflates version
> numbers without any solid reasons. However, we shouldn't over-compensate
> for this by staying below 1.0 forever. Also, 0.x numbers hamper IMHO the
> use of relatively mature OSS software in commercial projects - it's more
> difficult to convince managers that software of 0.x vintage is any good
> at all.
>
> So, the reason I pushed for the change in numbering was that as it is
> now, Nutch is relatively stable and suitable for serious use. It might
> not be as full of features as one might wished, but that's what the 1.0
> release implies - it's usable, with some limitations.
>
> >
> >
> > Will it be soon? :)
>
> I'm pretty sure it will be some time after the vacation period is over,
> not earlier ;)
>
>
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