Yeah, I think it happens when we restarted either Tomcat or Apache 
whilst in the middle of crawling or indexing (crawling if I had to 
guess). Now we're careful to let our crawls and indexing finish before 
we restart anything.  Haven't had any problems since.


Michael Wechner wrote:
> Insurance Squared Inc. wrote:
>
>> If I recall correctly, we just checked the segment directories for 
>> space size.  The bad ones had files of only 32K or something like that.
>
>
> thanks. Any idea why these are being created in the first place resp.
> why these are not being created anymore?
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
>
>>
>> g.
>>
>>
>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>
>>> Insurance Squared Inc. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Make sure you don't have any empty or bad segments.   We had some 
>>>> serious speed issues for a long time until we realized we had some 
>>>> empty segments that had been generated as we tested.  Nutch would 
>>>> then sit and spin on these bad segments for a few seconds on every 
>>>> search.  Simply deleting the bad segments took search times from 
>>>> >10 seconds to fractions of a second.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> how does one recognize bad (or empty) segments?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>>
>>>> g.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RP wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've got 500k urls indexed on an old 700mhz P3 clunker with only 
>>>>> 384MB of RAM at my searches take sub-seconds....  Something is 
>>>>> funny here.  I've got my JVM at 64MB for this as well, so be 
>>>>> careful as it sounds like you just caused the box to thrash a bit 
>>>>> with swapping.  Set the JVM down to 128MB and see what happens....
>>>>>
>>>>> rp
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean Dean wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like you don't have enough RAM to maintain the quick 
>>>>>> speeds you were seeing when the index was only around 3000 pages.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Nutch scales very well, but the hardware behind it must also. 
>>>>>> Using quick calculations and common sense, if your total system 
>>>>>> RAM is only 512MB and all of that is given to tomcat alone your 
>>>>>> looking at a situation where other system applications and/or 
>>>>>> parts of Tomcat are being executed out of swap memory. This will 
>>>>>> kill search speed.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> My recommendation would be to get more RAM, another 512MB should 
>>>>>> support a 1.5 million page index running at the speeds you 
>>>>>> experienced during your 3000 page trials. If you can get even 
>>>>>> more, then your only helping system (search) performance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are a few other tips, just in case you cant get any more RAM 
>>>>>> at this time:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> 1. Make sure your passing "-server" via JAVA_OPTS.
>>>>>> 2. Disable all non-required system and user applications.
>>>>>> 3. Download or install the newest stable kernel and recompile 
>>>>>> without all the junk.
>>>>>> 4. Reduce the size of your index.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>> From: shrinivas patwardhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:45:41 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: search performance
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thank you Sean Dean for your quick reply ...
>>>>>> well i am running nutch on ubuntu 5.01 and jdk1.5
>>>>>> there are some apps running in the background but they dont take 
>>>>>> up that
>>>>>> much of memory .
>>>>>> secondly i can understand about the first search .. but the other 
>>>>>> searches
>>>>>> following it also take time even getting the next 10 pages also 
>>>>>> takes some
>>>>>> time ..
>>>>>> so looking at all the issues does it relate to my system on the 
>>>>>> whole .. or
>>>>>> have i got wrong some where in the indexing process ?
>>>>>> i just followed the tutorial  for  nutch -0.7.2   under the 
>>>>>> section whole
>>>>>> web crawling .
>>>>>> when i indexed just about 3000 pages (subset of that dmoz index) 
>>>>>> the search
>>>>>> results were quick ) but now after loading the index file for almost
>>>>>> 1.5million pages it really dies up
>>>>>> i use to get a java heap space error in tomcat ,so i fixed it by 
>>>>>> setting the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JAVA_OPTS  to Xmx512m
>>>>>> i guess i have made my self very clear now . so wht do guys think 
>>>>>> must be
>>>>>> wrong ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Shrinivas
>>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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