I do thank nutch developers very, very much for what they have put into the project:) I think the concept is great and yes it does work, if you invest the time needed to learn the interfaces, updgrade the distribution nightly, relearn the commands, etc. Doug's statement that nutch is for early adopters is accurate.
Now that I have said that, I want to express my feeling that it's hard when it takes a week to figure out that invertlinks only applies to version 0.8. and when you ask to become a volunteer, you are met with no response. It's also frustrating when you share some heard earned insights into something that nutch needs to work on, like pdf parsing, and your comments don't get a single good response from the nutch dev team. Sometimes, in OS projects I get the feeling that the developers breathe different air than users, and that our help is not wanted or that our questions are stupid and not worth their time to answer. I don't feel that there is really any such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers. Some users even ask questions shamefully like: "I know I am a newbie, and my question is stupid, but here it is anyway". I think that's a stigma that we as the larger computer community need to steer away from, especially if we want newbie users to become advanced users. Nutch is nowhere near being a dead project, that is not what I said (I said it was close, not closed), its just that I don't feel that it's something that anyone can just download and use without running into problems. Problems always exist, but need to be documented correctly so that they can be solved quickly. I think nutch has a long way to go before it is comparable to tomcat or httpd, which are both production ready and have literally volumes of information on using in every manner possible. I am sorry if you don't like my opinion or the way it is expressed. -----Original Message----- From: carmmello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 10:54 AM To: nutch-user@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: project vitality? I really can not agree with the way Mr. Richard Braman express his views. I have tried Nutch since version 0.3 and I could not make the 0.8 release work (Nutch is becoming a little bit complicated with all those map reduce, hadoop, and so on, that I can't deal with). I understand, however, that if a product is not finished yet, some times it may fail with the lack of some fundamental documentation, but, if there is a bunch of people who develops, for free, a product that is commercially worth some thousands of dollars and may fit our purposes, we have to say thanks. After that we can, of course, express our views, complaints and suggestions, but we should refrain from some hard, non relevant comments, that goes nowhere, like this, non technical, post of mine. I, myself, have my own experimental implementation of Nutch 0.7.1.x (a nightly version), with more than 400,000 pages, that can be, sometimes, viewed at brazilian working hours, at http://www.qualidade.eng.br/constelacao.htm . It is in portuguese, but english terms related to quality, standards and environment can be searched.
