hi there,

the property "server.delay" is the delay for one site (e.g. wikipedia). So,
if you have a delay of 0.5 you'll fetch 2 pages per second.

In my opinion there is something about the fetcher's code that doesn't makes
it obey this rule in the very beginning . . . probarbly at start-up 30
threads start immediatly without caring about this setting, which could
cause a high pages/sec value in the beginning . . . but then the rule is
applied correctly and this averaged-value (pages/sec) becomes corrected in a
step-by-step manner - however I have no  evidence for this assumption.

If you look around the Fetcher's code (or maybe at the http-plugin - don't
remember) you'll find a config-property called "
protocol.plugin.check.blocking". If you set it to false you'll override the
"server.delay" property. The result of this action is that you'll start
"hammering" the wikipedia site.
I tried to achieve the same by setting the "server.delay" to 0 . . . however
. . . things didn't work well (I didn't investigate too much - I found the "
check.blocking" property, which worked?!).

Btw. I propose that you should not start (large) crawls on the
wikipedia-sites. The wiki guys don't like it. If you're just running a test
and fetch a few pages . . . ok . . . but a crawl of 8 hours . . . hmm . ..
not just a few pages, right?
Furthermore a "server.delay" of 0.5 doesn't really appear polite to me . . .

Ok, so what? If you're interested in indexing the wikipedia articles, you
can set-up wikipedia on your local computer . . .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download
Then you can run your fetch on your local machine or in your intranet and
you'll just be limited by the speed of the machine powering the mediawiki
application. I tried this with the German wikipedia dump and it took a
little bit more than 33 hours (AMD Athlon 2600 dualcore, 2GB RAM, WinXP,
java 1.5, nutch 0.9, ~614.000 articles, ~5.3 pages per second). I didn't
really care about performance, so I think this could be faster.


cheers





On 8/9/07, purpureleaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi, thanks for your reply
>
> Yes I was fetching from wikipedia only, I do this just for test this
> slowing
> down effect. But not too much I think, 4pages/s, still gets slower and
> slower, forever. So the fetcher is supposed to be slower than 1page/s (per
> site) ?
> I watched my bandwith, it used less than 20k/s, way less than my prodiver
> feel easy.
>
>
>
> Dennis Kubes-2 wrote:
> >
> > If this is stalling on only a few fetching tasks check the logs, more
> > than likely it is fetching many pages from a single site (i.e. amazon,
> > wikipedia, cnn) and the politeness settings (which you want to keep) are
> > slowing it down.
> >
> > If it is stalling on many task but a single machines check the hardware
> > for the machine.  We have seed hard disk speed decrease dramatically
> > right before they are going to die.  On linux do something like hdparm
> > -tT /dev/hda where hda is the device to check.  Average speeds for Sata
> > should be in the 75MBps range for disk reads and 7000+ range for cached
> > reads.
> >
> > Another thing is you may be maxing your bandwidth and your provider is
> > throttling you?
> >
> > Dennis KUbes
> >
> > purpureleaf wrote:
> >> Hi, I have worked with nutch for sometime. One thing I am always
> curious
> >> is
> >> when crawling, fetcher's speed will get slower and slower, no matter
> what
> >> configuration I use.
> >> My last test get this: ( just one site to make the problem more simple)
> >>
> >> OS : winxp
> >> java : 1.6.0.2
> >> nutch: 0.9
> >> cpu : AMD 1800
> >> mem : 1G
> >> network : 3m adsl
> >>
> >> site : wikipedia.org
> >> threads per site :30
> >> server.delay : 0.5
> >>
> >> It starts about 6page/s, but reduce to 4 in some minutes, then get
> slower
> >> and slower. I have run it for 8 hours, just 2page/s left, and it was
> till
> >> slowing down.
> >> But if I stop it and start one other, it returns full speed (then slows
> >> down
> >> again). I am ok with 2 pages/s for one site, but I do hope it will keep
> >> that
> >> speed.
> >>
> >> I found there are some guys in this list has the same problem. But I
> >> can't
> >> find an answer.
> >> If nutch designed to work this way?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >
> >
>
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