Dino,

> > Dino,
> > 
> >>> So active/active I think should be in the charter.
> >>> External tromboning if included would be a pull towards LISP and would be
 
> >>> nice to have just one encap for both purposes.
> >> 
> >> Just an FYI that LISP and VxLAN use the same encapsulation headers. An 8 b
yte
> >> UDP header followed by a 8 byte LISP header. What is the inner versus the 
> >> outer outer headers depends on the address type for your EID or RLOC 
> >> respectively.
> > 
> > Here is the LISP header:
> > 
> > 
> >       +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >   L   |N|L|E|V|I|flags|            Nonce/Map-Version                  |
> >   I \ +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> >   S / |                 Instance ID/Locator Status Bits               |
> >   P   +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> > 
> > Here is the VxLAN header:
> > 
> >        +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 
> >        |R|R|R|R|I|R|R|R|            Reserved                           | 
> >        +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 
> >        |                VXLAN Network Identifier (VNI) |   Reserved    | 
> >        +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ 
> > 
> > So, if one measure similarity by the size of the header, then indeed
> > both LISP and VxLAN use "the same encapsulation header" - both are
> > 8 bytes long.
> 
> When the I-bit is set in the LISP header, then the format is:
> 
>      x x x x 1 x x x
>     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>     |N|L|E|V|I|flags|            Nonce/Map-Version                  |
>     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>     |                 Instance ID                   |     LSBs      |
>     +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> 
> VxLAN's header is a subset functionality of the LISP header and 
> always sets the I-bit.

Functionality of a used car is a subset functionality of a new car.
Yet according to your logic the two are the same...

> > However, if we look inside these 8 bytes, we find that the two
> > encapsulation headers are quite different.
> > 
> > So, your statement that "LISP and VxLAN use the same encapsulation
> > headers" is incorrect.
> 
> Not true Yakov.

I guess your definition of "the same" is different from mine.

Yakov.
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