Hi Linda,

> [Linda] Does it assume that hypervisors will need to add this new
> attach/detach function?
> 
> IEEE802.1Qbg defines a Virtual Interface Discovery Protocol (VDP) which
> require Hypervisors to send Port Profile upon a new VM is added. However, the
> challenge is that Data Center operators may not be able to dictate what
> servers/hypervisors being deployed in their data centers.

Yes, VDP is a candidate for the attach/detach protocol.

Thanks,
--David


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Dunbar [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 5:30 PM
> To: Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri); [email protected]; Black, David
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [nvo3] Softswitches
> 
> 
> >
> > If the NVE is on a ToR, then there is a need for an attach/detach
> > protocol method hypervisors and ToRs.
> >
> 
> 
> [Linda] Does it assume that hypervisors will need to add this new
> attach/detach function?
> 
> IEEE802.1Qbg defines a Virtual Interface Discovery Protocol (VDP) which
> require Hypervisors to send Port Profile upon a new VM is added. However, the
> challenge is that Data Center operators may not be able to dictate what
> servers/hypervisors being deployed in their data centers.
> 
> If you can't dictate any changes to deployed hypervisors, "ARP/ND" might be
> able to be used as a way to announce the attachment, and timeout to declare
> the "detachment".
> 
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> Linda Dunbar
> > > NVE-2-oracle and oracle-2-rest_of_the_network I highly agree. But I
> > am
> > > not sure if one size will fit all there.
> >
> > I think that David has a valid point trying to separate the two and we
> > need both.
> >
> > Dimitri
> > >
> > > R.
> > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Robert
> > > >> Raszuk
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 3:48 PM
> > > >> To: Black, David
> > > >> Cc: [email protected]
> > > >> Subject: Re: [nvo3] Softswitches
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi David,
> > > >>
> > > >> Honestly I think we are getting more into implementation then
> > > >> standardization debate.
> > > >>
> > > >> What I call a softswitch can be either part of the linux kernel
> > entirely
> > > >> as a loadable module, can be partially in the kernel and partially
> > in
> > > >> the user space or if you follow NETMAP's direct memory mapping
> > from
> > > >> interface to user space could sit completely there.
> > > >>
> > > >> Examples of softswitches which I am experimenting with is as you
> > said
> > > >> one from VMWare, the other most popular is OVS, there is LINK
> > released
> > > >> recently and there is at least few more in the works which would
> > be
> > > >> partially sitting in the end-system kernel or the kernel and user
> > space.
> > > >>
> > > >> At least this is what I meant by using the term "embedded".
> > > >>
> > > >> The main point I think is that the L2/L3 virtualization/separation
> > will
> > > >> be happening in all of the above cases which share one very
> > important
> > > >> common characteristic - thay are all residing on the end host.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> R.
> > >
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