Luyuan,

True, DP learning is applicable to L2. This could be clarified in the previous 
section (4.2.1).
We could also highlight that CP driven methods are applicable to both L2 and L3.

Marc 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luyuan Fang (lufang) [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 5:58 PM
> To: LASSERRE, MARC (MARC); NAPIERALA, MARIA H; Pedro Roque 
> Marques; <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [nvo3] call for adoption: 
> draft-lasserre-nvo3-framework-02
> 
> Marc,
> 
> The sentence is correct, but I think you should clarify when 
> data planning learning is applicable, when it is not, e.g. if 
> all L3 solutions...
> Luyuan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf 
> > Of LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 9:04 AM
> > To: NAPIERALA, MARIA H; Pedro Roque Marques; <[email protected]>
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: 
> > draft-lasserre-nvo3-framework-02
> > 
> > Maria,
> > 
> > What about the following rewording?
> > 
> > "A combination of data plane and control plane based 
> learning may be 
> > applicable."
> > 
> > Marc
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> > > Of NAPIERALA, MARIA H
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2012 2:18 AM
> > > To: Pedro Roque Marques; <[email protected]>
> > > Cc: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [nvo3] call for adoption:
> > > draft-lasserre-nvo3-framework-02
> > >
> > > > > As has been pointed out a number of times, pure data
> > > plane learning
> > > > leads
> > > > > to a lot of BUM traffic flooding, so a combination of
> > > data plane and
> > > > control
> > > > > plane can work better with existing systems and improve
> > > scalability.
> > > >
> > > > Data plane learning, l2 header transparency, bridging
> > > interoperability
> > > > are all very reasonable requirements for one type of
> > > data-centers. But
> > > > also an unacceptable burden for a different class of DC
> > > designs. In my
> > > > view you and Maria are just looking at different types of
> > > DC designs.
> > > > They are different problems.
> > >
> > > Precisely. And my comment was that the sentence in draft:
> > > "Often a combination of data plane and control based learning is 
> > > necessary" seems to be assuming that pretty much all data centers 
> > > must use (some) data plane learning. I have suggested to 
> clarify it.
> > >
> > > Maria
> > >
> > >
> > > >    Pedro.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > --David
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> > > > >> Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > >> NAPIERALA, MARIA H
> > > > >> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 2:14 PM
> > > > >> To: [email protected]
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [nvo3] call for adoption: draft-lasserre-nvo3-
> > > > framework-02
> > > > >>
> > > > >> A comment on section 4.2.2 "Coordination between 
> data plane and
> > > > control plane"
> > > > >>
> > > > >>   "Often a combination of data plane and control based
> > > learning is
> > > > >>   necessary."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think this statement is too strong since in a solution
> > > proposed
> > > > >> in
> > > > draft-
> > > > >> marques-l3vpn-end-system, for example, there is no data plane
> > > > learning in a
> > > > >> virtual network. Maybe it should be explain when such
> > > combination
> > > > >> is necessary.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Maria
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> On 6/18/2012 11:51 PM, Benson Schliesser wrote:
> > > > >>> Dear NVO3 Participants -
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> This message begins a two week Call for Adoption of
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> > > > >>> ending on 02-July-2012.
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