Ok, thanx. Seems like there are some realistic use cases.
jak
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Xuxiaohu [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 6:34 PM
> To: James Kempf; [email protected]
> Cc: Kireeti Kompella; [email protected]
> Subject: re: [nvo3] (no subject)
>
> Hi Jak,
>
> Actually we have developed that L3 NVE on our NE40E router
> products according to Virtual Subnet
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xu-virtual-subnet-08) and
> we are still improving it based on the experiment results. At
> present, we use ARP to notify the VM attachment event so that
> the L3VPN PE upon receiving that gratuitous ARP packet from
> the moved VM could update the corresponding host route in the
> associated VRF and advertise that host route to remote PE
> routers accordingly.
>
> If you need more detailed information on that, please feel
> free to contact me.
>
> Best regards,
> Xiaohu
>
> > -----邮件原件-----
> > 发件人: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 代表 James
> > Kempf
> > 发送时间: 2012年7月25日 6:17
> > 收件人: [email protected]
> > 抄送: Kireeti Kompella; [email protected]
> > 主题: Re: [nvo3] (no subject)
> >
> > Hi Robert,
> >
> > Hmm, perhaps I still wasn't clear enough.
> >
> > I want to know *who* is going to use a protocol between the
> server an
> > an L3 d-lNVE? Who has got product/prototype that needs such a
> > protocol, standardized or not? You don't need to be explicit if you
> > are concerned about revealing future product plans, just a
> coy raising of a hand.
> >
> > I don't see anyone in cloud space right now who has any such
> > product/prototype/concept for upcoming implementation with
> an L3 d-lNVE.
> > Now, that doesn't mean that there isn't someone, but there are
> > multiple NVO3 drafts out there based on this concept, and I assume
> > that someone must have something cooking to devote so much text
> > writing and email time to discussing it.
> >
> > If not, then I think the WG would be better to spend its time on
> > discussing protocols for architectures that are deployed or
> have some
> > hope of deployment.
> >
> > jak
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:06 PM
> > > To: James Kempf
> > > Cc: Kireeti Kompella; [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [nvo3] (no subject)
> > >
> > > Hi James,
> > >
> > > I think actually Kireeti has precisely answered your
> question. L3VPN
> > > model addresses very well the L3 virtualization requirement IMHO.
> > >
> > > Of course I do agree with those who say that PE should
> reside on the
> > > hypervisor rather then TOR. So rather then asking for yet another
> > > proprietary virtualization protocol you could consider
> perhaps using
> > > a solution which is standards based yet allow flexible
> creation of
> > > virtual topologies for the tenant interconnects (both intra and
> > > inter data center).
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > R.
> > >
> > > > Hi Kireeti,
> > > > I don't think you've answered my question. My question
> was whether
> > > > there is any product or prototype currently that has a
> > > distributed lNVE.
> > > > If I ask the same question about a localized lNVE, I get
> > > the following:
> > > >
> > > > OVS/Nicira (um, I mean VMWare :-) NVP Cisco Nexus 1000V
> and VMWare
> > > > ESX VMWare ESX Server Virtual Switch VSphere
> Distributed Virtual
> > > > Switch (the control plane is
> > > distributed,
> > > > not the NVE termination point).
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to see the same list of products or prototypes for a
> > > > distributed lNVE.
> > > > jak
> > > >
> > > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ----------
> > > > *From:* Kireeti Kompella [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:09 PM
> > > > *To:* James Kempf
> > > > *Cc:* [email protected]
> > > > *Subject:* Re: [nvo3] (no subject)
> > > >
> > > > Hi James,
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:43 PM, James Kempf
> > > > <[email protected]
> > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I had a question on something in draft-kompella:
> > > >
> > > > >In some cases, the lNVE is co-resident with the server
> > > > > hosting the VM; in other cases, the lNVE
> is separate
> > > > (distributed
> > > > > lNVE). The latter case is the one of
> interest in this
> > > > document.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any product/prototype currently under
> > > development which
> > > > anyone is aware of where there is an L3 (not L2)
> > > lNVE that falls
> > > > into the latter case?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Anyone's boxes that do IP VPNs (RFC 4364) could in
> > > principle be used
> > > > as an L3 lNVE. However, they vary in their ability to
> > > comply with
> > > > other requirements of the data center environment.
> > > >
> > > > If you view E-VPNs as L3-ish, that adds to the list.
> > > >
> > > > Kireeti.
> > > >
> > > > jak
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