From: Stiliadis, Dimitrios (Dimitri) 
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[...]
> >In any case, regardless of whether we're considering VMs or bare-metal
> >servers, in the simplest scenario the server-to-NVE connection is a
> >point-to-point link, usually without VLAN tagging.
> 
>  Unfortunately not always. If the NVE is the ToR and the server is part
> of a blade system, the server-to-NVE connection is actually multiplexed.

Ignoring for the moment that data centers that would benefit most from NVO3 
supposedly don't over-appreciate blade servers - if the server-to-ToR switch 
connection is multiplexed, then there must be an active element in the blade 
enclosure. Usually it's a switch. Is there a good reason that switch couldn't 
be a NVE, but a ToR switch could be?

>  Same holds for "fabric extender" type of architectures.

Fabric extenders using 802.1BR or the S-component of 802.1Qbg present every 
server NIC as a separate interface to the controlling bridge (ToR switch).

>  One could require that the NVE must always be one hop away and in a  p2p
> connection, but this would limit options.

It would also make the whole setup a lot more secure, as the NVE could reliably 
enforce per-VM/server security policy. Once you mix traffic sourced from 
multiple VMs/servers into a VLAN, it's impossible to enforce reliable 
per-server security.

>  Also, if you want to consider multi-homed servers to dual NVEs, there
> are some additional complexities to consider, especially if we are
> looking for active/active configurations.

So maybe we'd finally get a standard version of MLAG? Would be about time ;)

[...] 
> Yes, VLAN hand offs are perfectly fine and cover most cases, and I don't
> think they require a p2p link.

See above.
Ivan

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