very true

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Somesh Gupta <[email protected]> wrote:

> Agree although some of the NICs can do some or most of the offloads even
> today.****
>
> But in my opinion STT introduces reassembly state in the receiver which
> would****
>
> prevent gateway implementations in ASICs – for  a short term gain.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Jon Hudson [mailto:[email protected]]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 5:26 PM
> *To:* Somesh Gupta
> *Cc:* [email protected]
>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvo3] performance limitations with virtual switch as the
> nvo3 end point****
>
> ** **
>
> Totally agreed, but that will require all new hardware. ****
>
> ** **
>
> One of the gains of STT was the use of current off the self performance
> capabilities. ****
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Somesh Gupta <[email protected]> wrote:
> ****
>
> I assume that majority of the NIC vendors will support the stateless
> offloads for****
>
> VxLAN and NvGRE by sometime next year – so they should all be on equal
> footing****
>
> from that point of view.****
>
>  ****
>
> the additional overhead of encap/decap compared to the overhead of copying
> date between****
>
> the VM and the hypervisor should be minimal.****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
> Of *smith, erik
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:48 PM
> *To:* David LE GOFF; [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [nvo3] performance limitations with virtual switch as the
> nvo3 end point****
>
>  ****
>
> Hi David, a few months ago we did some basic performance testing with OVS
> and were pretty happy with the results.  For one reason or another we were
> under the impression that using OVS to encap/decap would limit our total
> throughput to 4-6 Gbps and this turned out to not be the case.  In our
> configuration, we were able to demonstrate 20 Gbps over a bonded pair of
> 10GbE NICs using STT for the overlay.  Our testing wasn’t exactly
> scientific but I also found an interesting blog post by Martin Cassado that
> our limited testing seems to corroborate.****
>
>  ****
>
> I haven’t done any testing with VMware and VXLAN.  However, if you’re
> experiencing limited performance with OVS on <insert your favorite Linux
> distro here>, I would suggest playing around with Jumbo frames (starting
> from within the guest) and working your way out to the physical interfaces.
>   ****
>
>  ****
>
> For additional information, refer to the following:****
>
> 1)      Martin Cassado’s blog: (
> http://networkheresy.com/2012/06/08/the-overhead-of-software-tunneling/)
> ****
>
> 2)      I posted something to my blog a bit less detailed (but with
> diagrams) earlier this week (
> http://brasstacksblog.typepad.com/brass-tacks/2012/08/network-virtualization-networkings-21st-century-equivalent-to-the-space-race.html)
>   Specifically, the final three diagrams..
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> Erik****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
> Of *David LE GOFF
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:16 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [nvo3] performance limitations with virtual switch as the nvo3
> end point****
>
>  ****
>
> Hi Folks,****
>
>  ****
>
> Did anyone experienced some performance limitations in Labs with the
> virtual switch function as the bottleneck when dealing with network
> overlays?****
>
> I mean with the tunnel end point located on the hypervisor (virtual
> switch), setting up Tagging, QoS, ACL, encryption/decryption, etc. require
> significant CPUs.****
>
>
> I know there is not yet official nvo3 implementation there, though VSphere
> 5 announced it with VXLAN recently but at any chance if some studies have
> been done, I would be glad to read those.****
>
> I know STT has been built to overcome such challenges thanks to the NIC
> offload capabilities…****
>
>  ****
>
> These studies may also drive the brainstorming about which protocol we may
> use/build?****
>
>  ****
>
> Thank you!****
>
>  ****
>
> david le goff.****
>
>
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> ****
>
> ** **
>
> --
> "Do not lie. And do not do what you hate."****
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