Hi Mark,

The following 2 citations from today's mails on the list suggest, that the 
framework definition on virtual data center may have to be clarified:

Here the 2 citations:
Jon Hudson wrote: "We must remember that the use case for for many customers is 
to make 2+ datacenters appear as 1. So it must be as trasnparent as it can be 
with all the redundancy that you would see in a single local site. "


Aldrin Isaac wrote: "important use case that needs to be addressed is how to 
"stretch" a subnet across two or more NVO3 domain.  If two NVO3 domains connect 
at two separate sites, then the subnet will be stretched across these NVO3 
domains at both sites.  "


Could you/the authors of the Framework for DC Network Virtualization 
draft-lasserre-nvo3-framework-03

please clarify, if the definition of "virtual data center" covers the use case 
of one virtual datacenter being stretched across two data centers?

If that is not the case, I request to include a definition of "NVO3 domain" 
into the framework, in the sense how Aldrin used the term.

Regards, Lothar


Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von 
LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2012 12:59
An: Lucy yong
Cc: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [nvo3] comments for the framework-03 draft

Lucy,

I have just uploaded the new draft-nvo3-framework-00 version as per Matthew and 
Benson's last email.
The suggested changes below will be included in the next revision of the draft.

Thanks,
Marc

________________________________
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 12:30 PM
To: Lucy yong
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nvo3] comments for the framework-03 draft
Hi Lucy,

See my comments below.

Thanks,
Marc

________________________________
From: Lucy yong [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 8:06 PM
To: LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: comments for the framework-03 draft
Hi Marc,

I think it is necessary to add server manger component in the section of 
functional components in the framework draft. As we know, one of main cases for 
nvo3 is to place NVE on a server. In which, there is no-wire between NVE and 
TESes. In DC today, a server manager is used to create vswitch/NVE and VMs, 
place VMs on a VN.  Current draft mixes this function in the control plane 
component, which causes a lot of confusion as seen in the mailing list. In 
addition, vm placement and mobility are very critical features that nvo3 need 
to support and these actions are initiated by the  server manger, separating 
control plane component and server manager component makes easy and clear for 
the solution development to target different parts.

The intent is indeed to describe the Network Virtualization functional 
components independently from the server management component - as you 
mentioned in your last sentence, this helps identlfying the NVO3 specific 
management aspects from existing datacenter management functions that have to 
be implemented.

Some text in section 3.5.1.1 can move server manager component section. I 
propose to add following subsections in server manager component:

-          NVE and a VN Creation

Note: state this applying to when NVE is on server.

-          Provisioning one or more TESes into an NVE/VNI
Note: state this applying to both NVE is on or not-on server.

Another comment: It is a bit confusion in figure 4 and 5 to show multiple VNIs 
with one VN context (single line).  What does mean?
The idea is to show that several VN instances can be supported concurrently and 
that the overlay function relies upon a VN context identification to perform 
its mux/demux related functions.
A sentence can be added to clarify this point.


Suggest to change section 2.3 title to "virtual network type". One NVE should 
be able to host both L2 VN and L3 VN. so 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 title misleading. 
Suggest
Replace "L2 NVE providing Ethernet LAN-like service" with "L2 virtual network 
providing Ethernet LAN-like service"
Replace "L3 NVE providing IP/VRF-like service" with "L3 virtual network 
providing IP VPN-like service"
Yes, an NVE can support both L2 and L3 VN services - like a PE can provide both 
L2 and L3 VPN services. The terms L2 and L3 PEs have been used extensively 
before, hence the L2 NVE and L3 NVE names.

In section 4.2.1, it only describes a concern on data plane driven, does not 
say anything on control plane driven. It should mention some traditional 
control plane dissemination protocol may bring big burden for each NVE to 
maintain the locations of all TESs.

 Good point. We will add some text in a future revision.

Regards,
Lucy


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