On 12/17/12 10:57 AM, "Kireeti Kompella" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>On Dec 17, 2012, at 10:18 , "NAPIERALA, MARIA H" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Intra-subnet traffic can be also handled by a layer 3 overlay.
>
>Let me expand.
>
>I see the need for E-VPN for non-IP traffic.  This is real, and is not
>met by IP VPNs (news flash!)
>
>For IP traffic, whether intra and inter-subnet, IP VPNs suffice.
>
>The solution is simple: route if IP, bridge if not.  Yes, one could do
>IRB, but why?  IRB brings in complications, especially for multicast.
>I'm sure someone suggested this already, so put me down as supporting
>this view.

IRB has been around and deployed for ages. What multicast complications
are you referring to?

>
>A NVE that supports both E-VPN and IP VPN for a given tenant simply sends
>IP traffic to the IP VPN and sends the rest to E-VPN.  How this happens
>is implementation specific.  Note that this assumes that the NVE
>intercepts ARPs and responds to them with the same MAC.  Does anyone see
>a problem with this?

I don't think we should draw artificial lines around different solutions.
If a single IRB solution can do the job, then why do we need to mandate
two different solutions.

-Ali


>
>If there is a case for _only_ intra-subnet traffic, one may create an
>E-VPN to handle both IP and non-IP; but I suspect this is a rare case.
>
>From that point of view, I would like to see E-VPNs in the data center
>*always* coupled with IP VPNs, and only dealing with non-IP traffic.
>
>This may appear drastic, but I think operationally, this is will simplify
>things.  As always, I am open to alternate suggestions, provided they are
>presented without religion or politics.  I'm especially keen to hear from
>those deploying.
>
>Kireeti.
>
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