I think this may reflect some confusion around possible meanings of 
“interface”.  I believe that the notion of “interface” that is desired here 
corresponds to a vNIC, not a bonded set of vNICs (and likewise to a NIC, not a 
bonded set of NICs).  If that clarification is clear, I think TSI would be a 
reasonable term.

Thanks,
--David

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Reith, 
Lothar
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:18 AM
To: Qin Wu; Larry Kreeger (kreeger); [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nvo3] 答复: 答复: 答复: NVO3 Terminology changes

I believe that it is not possible to replace the term vNIC with “TSI”, because 
multiple vNICs may form a single interface.

 AFAIK it is common practice to use vNIC bonding (LAG) for high availability, 
where two vNICs of one VM are associated with different physical NICs of the 
virtualization host running the VMs. Creating a LAG of these 2 vNICs ( 
NIC-Bonding) creates a single Interface of the VM which survives the outage of 
one of the both physical NICs.


Lothar

Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Qin Wu
Gesendet: Montag, 15. April 2013 09:17
An: Larry Kreeger (kreeger); [email protected]
Betreff: [nvo3] 答复: 答复: 答复: NVO3 Terminology changes

>>I believe one tenant system can host multiple VMs, each VM may have multiple 
>>vNIC adapters that it uses to communicate with both the virtual and physical 
>>networks.

>LK> A VM is one example of a tenant system…so it would not host VMs.  You may 
>be thinking of "End Device".

>[Qin]: Not sure about that, the definition of “Tenant system” in Framework 
>said:
“
>       Tenant System: A physical or virtual system that can play the role
>       of a host, or a forwarding element such as a router, switch,
>       firewall, etc. It belongs to a single tenant and connects to one or
>       more VNs of that tenant.
”
>So tenant system can be a host and host one or multiple VMs on it. What am I 
>missing?

>LK2> I think that you are assuming that "host" is synonymous with 
>"Hypervisor".  In the definition above, I believe the term host relates to the 
>more traditional definition of an internet host such as in RFC 1122.


[Qin]: So “Host” in the definition of tenant system seems misleading since we 
two have different interpretation to it. I agree Hypersor or Server or Server 
blade can host multiple VMs, however in the framework document, it also said, a 
host can be server or server blade in the definition of End device.

LK3> Only servers or server blades that are running hypervisors can host 
multiple VMs.  When we mean hypervisor we must say hypervisor (what form factor 
of server it is running on is irrelevant).  All hypervisors run on servers,

[Qin]: Yes.

>but all servers are not running hypervisor software.

[Qin]: Are you saying that not all server are running hypervisor software? If 
yes, I agree. If not, would you like to clarify a little bit?

Suppose one tenant A have 2 VMs resided in the server1 or hypervisor1. Tenant B 
have 3 VMs resided in the server 1.

Can we say each VM belonging to the same tenant is a tenant system

LK3> Yes

or multiple VMs of each tenant sharing the same Server belong to the same 
single tenant system?  i.e., Tenant System A corresponding to Tenant A contains 
2 VMs. Tenant System B corresponding to Tenant B contains 3 VMs.

LK3> No, that would be a really bad idea IMO.  The fact that two VMs happen to 
be running on the same server hardware is an ephemeral thing.  From one moment 
to the next a VM may migrate to a different server where it becomes separated 
from the other VMs.  Furthermore, I see no advantage in defining a Tenant 
System to be a grouping of VMs from a networking perspective since the thing 
that connects multiple VMs together is the network.

[Qin]: Good point, I fully agree with you. Here is the update to 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wu-nvo3-nve2nve-03.txt, (NVO3 control 
plane requirement mostly for NVE to NV Authority/Controller interface) which 
clears terminology confusing based on our discussion.





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