In the requirements phase, a separate security requirements draft is useful. I 
agree with Dacheng that it is important to consider the requirements for the 
whole system. If security requirements were dispersed, I'd be concerned that 
something would be missed. 

That doesn't mean that security should be covered separately when we get to 
solutions documents. 

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Melinda 
Shore
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nvo3] draft-hartman-nvo3-security-requirements

On 9/11/2013 10:14 AM, Zu Qiang wrote:
> First of all, I do agree that we may need a security requirement
> draft. But I don't think this draft is ready for WG adoption. At
> least my comments in this mail have not  been addressed yet. I feel
> that there are subtle issues that have not been considered and I plan
> to expand it on in a draft which I'm working on.

I don't think that a separate security requirements draft
is a good idea, for reasons I've touched upon before.
That said, I also find your criteria for draft adoption
overly stringent and not particularly consistent with
how the IETF does business.  It is typically not the
case that a draft needs to be publication-ready, or even
very mature, for it to be adopted by a working group.
It should be in the right general ballpark and have an
editor who can be relied upon to record working group
consensus in the document.

I think it would be fantastic if you and Dacheng got
together and drew up some security requirements for
inclusion in the requirements documents.  Security requirements
should not be considered outside the context of other
protocol or operational requirements.

Melinda
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