On Mar 19, 2014, at 1:21 PM, Larry Kreeger (kreeger) <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 3/19/14 8:12 AM, "Tom Herbert" <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Anton Ivanov (antivano)
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> So all of us who use more generic hardware which has a checksumming algo
>>> which can be adapted to cope, should now abandon any ideas to improve a
>>> protocol just because three early examples of technology have been
>>> designed in a manner which explicitly forces their buyers to upgrade
>>> later. Right?
>>> 
>>> Interesting idea. To say the least.
>>> 
>> Whether you like or dislike how hardware vendors implement their
>> features is immaterial, the fact is that what they are doing is
>> correct protocol-wise. It is the proposed change to VXLAN protocol
>> that is not backwards compatible and can lead to incorrect behavior in
>> existing implementations.
> 
> I guess I disagree with your definition of backward compatibility.  To me,
> it means new implementations can support both the new and old
> (old=backward).  It doesn't mean that old implementations can somehow
> magically support new extensions (new=forward).
> 

PQ>  That's my definition as well.



>> 
>> Also, I would point, RX csum is only one example. The general
>> statement is that any legacy implementation which receives a VXLAN
>> packet with the new format encapsulating a non-Ethernet frame
>> potentially misinterprets the packet and experiences bad behavior.
> 
> If the software on host with an old offload NIC wants to support the new
> extensions, can't the offloads be turned off so they are not
> misinterpreted?
> 
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