Benson,

IMHO, the description of the type of DCVPN to be addressed by NVO3 should be in 
the first paragraph. What you had in paragraphs 3&4 are  the deliverables by 
NVO3.

It is not clear what does the term “within or between  DCVPN”  mean in Don’s 
proposal of “address providing both Layer 2 and Layer 3 Services within and 
between DCVPNs” within and between DCVPNs”.

Linda

From: Benson Schliesser [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 2:08 PM
To: Linda Dunbar
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nvo3] Fwd: DRAFT Charter Update for Discussion

Hi, Linda.

I think we captured the same idea in paragraphs 3 and 4 of the proposed 
charter. (See 
http://svn.tools.ietf.org/svn/wg/nvo3/charter-ietf-nvo3-01-rev-20140808.txt for 
reference.) Are you suggesting that we also add those ideas to the first 
paragraph? I think that could be a good idea, but I'd like to do it in a 
concise way.

If so, could you please look at the text from Don Fedyk (see 
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/nvo3/Z_vhgIF_rWz92VxuuZ1pMXjfaUo) and 
suggest how to improve it with these ideas?

Thanks,
-Benson




On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:57 AM, Linda Dunbar 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Benson,

I like your elaboration: a specific type of DCVPN: overlay-based with a 
logically centralized control plane.
It would be great if this explanation can be included in the Charter, something 
like:


“An NVO3 solution is to address a specific type of Data Center Virtual Private 
Network (DCVPN) that is overlay-based with a logically centralized control 
plane. The NVO3 WG will develop a set of protocols and/or protocol extensions 
that address the issues
described by draft-ietf-nvo3-overlay-problem-statement consistent with the
approach described by draft-ietf-nvo3-framework.”

Linda



From: Benson Schliesser 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2014 12:57 PM
To: Linda Dunbar
Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [nvo3] Fwd: DRAFT Charter Update for Discussion

Hi, Linda.

On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Linda Dunbar 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
The proposed charter is so general that there is not much to pick on. Yes, you 
have done a great job drafting it.

I'm not sure if you're serious, or teasing me / being sarcastic, but either way 
I guess it puts a smile on my face. ;)

 So the NVO3 is now DCVPN? Since the underlay is IP, will it become another 
L3VPN?

Somebody else asked me a similar question privately, so I want to make sure 
it's clear...

The term "NVO3" refers to a working group. The term "DCVPN" refers to the 
category of solutions for providing multi-tenancy, etc in a DC environment. 
There are possibly many technical approaches to designing a DCVPN. Some of 
those approaches might be based on protocols like BGP, MPLS, etc, which are 
developed in other WGs. As proposed in the new charter, NVO3 does not own the 
scope / charter for all work on DCVPNs. Rather, the proposed NVO3 charter is 
meant to narrow our focus to a specific type of DCVPN: overlay-based with a 
logically centralized control plane.

That being said, is that not clear from the text that we proposed? Is there 
some specific way that it could be improved?

Cheers,
-Benson




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