Hi Alia,

I fully support your approach. I am strongly in favor  of moving forward with 
one standards track encap.

May be it would be an approach to try and agree on a handful of criteria, such 
as extensibility, backwards compatibility with VXLAN and/or NVGRE, number of 
running code, ease of hardware implementation (evidenced by number of running 
hardware code), interoperability with VXLAN/NVGRE, Security, Cost in terms of 
protocol overhead, Cost in terms of scarce numbering resources, 
interoperability with legacy deployments in the field, support by deployed 
control planes, and yes: Simplicity (the opposite of complexity).

Did I miss any important category?

One could agree on the categories, agree on a process to rank the 3 candidate 
protocols – e.g. identify the best and the worst by the number and severity of 
objections in that category, the third is in the middle.

The final rank would be average of the ranks per category. That one should be 
promoted to standards track.

One could consider flipping a coin to decide the rank in a category – but only 
in a contentious situation between 2 of the 3 candidates.

Lothar



Von: nvo3 [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Alia Atlas
Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. Juli 2016 22:05
An: Joe Touch <[email protected]>
Cc: Tom Herbert <[email protected]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) 
<[email protected]>; [email protected]; Matthew Bocci <[email protected]>; 
Paul Quinn <[email protected]>; Dino Farinacci <[email protected]>; Jesse Gross 
<[email protected]>; Larry Kreeger <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [nvo3] Consensus call on encap proposals

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Joe Touch 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

On 7/26/2016 12:42 PM, Alia Atlas wrote:
...

The question is:

(1) Should the WG move forward with one standards track encap?

I've heard a lot of concern that we just can't do it, that it's too late, etc.

I don't think it's ever "too late", but I also don't see consensus forming 
either.

It may be that many folks are recovering from IETF and not responding yet.

...
We can always flip a coin - if the solutions are technically equivalent and so 
is the
support.

That defines "random", not "consensus".

It's not a preferred way - but it's a way of breaking a deadlock.
Of course, the WG would have to have consensus on that being the decision 
process.
Take a read through RFC 7282.  I keep praising it because it gives really good 
perspectives.



Joe

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