Mirja,

Actually sending more copies of the same packet, especially multicast packets, 
rarely cause congestion.
Congestion only occurs when links’ utilization reach close to 100% as most 
switches/routers today can handle wire speed forwarding. The rule of thumb of 
deploying network is 50% link utilization, especially in data center where 
links can be added very easily.

In addition, Application based multicast is less than 2% of total traffic. 
Anyway, to make Collin happy, I already inserted one sentence in the following 
original paragraph (in purple) in -10 version which has been uploaded:

      “This method requires multiple copies of the same packet to all NVEs that 
participate in the VN.  If, for example, a tenant subnet is spread across 50 
NVEs, the packet would have to be replicated 50 times at the source NVE.  
Obviously, this approach creates more traffic to the network that can cause 
congestion when the network load is high. This also creates an issue with the 
forwarding performance of the NVE.”

ECN for NVO3 network is totally different subject. It will take a lot to 
describe ECN clearly for NVO3 network. To the least, it is not even clear of 
the scenario, use cases, and implication for ECN for NVO3.

Therefore, we don’t believe it is within the scope of this draft to discuss or 
reference ECN for this draft.

Linda Dunbar

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Based on the feedback provided by the tsv-art review (Thanks Colin!) I would 
like to see a paragraph or short section that discusses how replication as used 
in section 3.2 and 3.3 can impact multicast congestion control and also 
provides a pointer to draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-encap-guidelines-09 in case ECN is 
supported in the NVO network which can likely be the case in data center 
scenarios.





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