Hi Jim,

Thanks for that explanation, I kinda figured it might not be possible, but I
thought it worth asking since I'm not an expert in that area.

Oh well...

Thanks,

Darren.

James Carlson wrote:
> Darren Kenny writes:
>> Further to this - while it's currently the case that many people have 
>> different
>> DNS and default domainname, I wonder if we (NWAM) should be undertaking a 
>> push
>> towards using the same for both, in that by default DNS will also use the
>> default domainname, but allow for a user (using advanced settings) to use a
>> different one...
> 
> I don't see how that's possible.
> 
> It's the network administrator who chooses how to use these
> attributes, not the NWAM user, so the NWAM user likely can't be
> "pushed" to do anything but comply with what the powers-that-be
> determine.
> 
> In my case, I have to live with the way the IT folks who run the SWAN
> manage things.  My DNS domain is east.sun.com but my NIS domain is
> ecd.east.sun.com.  That's just how it is.  If you push on me, I'll
> point out that (a) I have no control over IT and (b) a design that
> assumes I do is going to be hard and annoying to use.
> 
> I think the real confusion here is just naming.  The NIS "domain" has
> nothing to do with a DNS "domain."  There's no connection.  You can't
> meaningfully ask for <host>.<nisdomain> -- it makes no sense.  You
> also can't ask for the "passwd.byname" map inside <dnsdomain> -- that
> doesn't exist.
> 
> It's a *really* unfortunate accident of history that these entirely
> different objects have been given very similar names.  Even if you
> subscribe to the erroneous religion based on the "hosts.byname" book,
> it's not true that the entries in that book use the NIS domain as DNS
> uses domains.  They're just tokens -- just names -- entirely devoid of
> what DNS would call a "domain."
> 
> It sure would have been better for all if domainname had been called
> the "NIS Administrative Area" or some such, but the time for fixing
> that is long past.
> 

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