As Chris has pointed out, our guidelines for job posts also cover replying. If 
you are interested in a position, contact the poster directly. If you feel you 
have important, constructive, and civil feedback you want to give the original 
poster, do so off the list.

Please also make yourself familiar with our code of conduct for member 
participation:

http://nwrug.org/code-of-conduct

We want to maintain a positive and civil atmosphere both here on the list as 
well as at our meet ups. 

Tekin


> On 6 Feb 2016, at 19:04, Chris Seaton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> The guidelines for NWRUG say that you should reply to jobs posts off-list.
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/nwrug-members/pkCjJAhCRwI/ddzTFK3wAcAJ
> 
> These nasty replies make people avoid posting jobs to NWRUG. I’m hiring at 
> the moment, but I will never post about it here because I could do without 
> the criticism that seems to come no matter how well-intentioned the job 
> advert is.
> 
> If you don’t like the job advert, don’t apply for it.
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On 6 Feb 2016, at 18:54, Jeff Lawson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Gareth,
>> 
>> You are big on what you want from people but say almost nothing about what
>> you can offer people. No mention of working conditions, hours of work,
>> pension, training, equity, etc. You hold out the offer of £30-£50K. £30K
>> is an ridiculous for someone who has the skills that you want.
>> 
>> You say you want developers to be happy but only because you think that
>> will increase their productivity.
>> 
>> I cannot imagine any self-respecting developer wanting to work for you,
>> given your disregard of employee side.
>> 
>> 
>> Jeff Lawson
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, February 3, 2016 9:43 am, Gareth Kirwan wrote:
>>> Thermeon are looking for software developers to join our UK team. This
>>> role is ideally suited to junior and mid-level developers, with a couple
>>> of years experience under their belts.
>>> 
>>> Thermeon’s technical team has a specific culture. The entire team works
>>> remotely. We want our developers to be happy, and working on things they
>>> enjoy, in order to be as productive as possible. We track down and remove
>>> sources of pain in the way of that, so you can get on with doing what you
>>> want. We’re highly connected via IRC and google hangouts, and work
>>> together to deliver solutions. We have daily team meetings, and encourage
>>> a team mindset, instead of a hierarchy.
>>> 
>>> There’s no single mold we’re looking for, but here’s a few
>>> indications that you’ll fit in well with us: * You’ve been creating
>>> things using computers for a long time * You reach for technology to solve
>>> everyday problems * You’re familiar with your environment. It isn’t
>>> something you use, it’s something you own. * You like talking to
>>> communities about technologies. Probably in IRC, slack, gitter or similar
>>> * You’ve probably tried more email clients than cereals
>>> * You’re deliberate about the workflows you use, and you internalise
>>> them as a concept * You know what technologies are interesting right now,
>>> and which ones have grown into maturity. That might be libraries, or
>>> technical stacks, but you’ve got your finger on a pulse * You’ve
>>> contributed to FOSS somehow.
>>> 
>>> Here’s what we look for. The more you meet, the better. You should:
>>> * Be very proficient in linux, zsh/bash/similar, ssh, tmux/screen/similar,
>>> vim/emacs/similar * Be proficient in at least two programming languages
>>> and eager to learn more * Know git. No, Not just source control. If you
>>> don’t know git, you’ve dodged too much FOSS * Have heard of docker
>>> * Understand web services and web servers
>>> * Know of TDD and CI
>>> * Know of agile practices, scrum and preferably kanban too
>>> * Know about several databases. Relational and NoSQL preferably
>>> * Know the basics of computer networking
>>> * Have a few years of commercial experience as a developer
>>> * Have found our website. That’s why we haven’t told you about the
>>> company.
>>> 
>>> These are about your character, not about your knowledge.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> This advert isn’t about what the role will be doing. If you fit in with
>>> the culture, then you’ll add value by doing whatever you’re good at
>>> and enjoy.
>>> 
>>> Here’s the stack we’re currently interested in:
>>> * Golang, ruby, perl
>>> * Docker, terraform, mesos, marathon, haproxy
>>> * cassandra, redis, elasticsearch, kibana, logstash, grafana
>>> * github, circleci, coveralls
>>> * backbone, grunt, extjs
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ideally you should have experience working remotely, but it’s not
>>> essential. It’s certainly a skill, and if you haven’t done it before,
>>> there’s a risk it might not be right for you. You must have a suitable
>>> stable environment free of distractions.
>>> 
>>> Salary is negotiable. In the ballpark of £30-50k.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We look forward to hearing from you!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gareth
>>> 
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