Where is the node in bryant park? I have tried to connect
to left the stage area facing 6th ave; and in front of the Bryant Park grill,
also facing 6th Ave.
I will try Boowling Green later today...
Ramon L. Garcia
Systems Engineer
DotCom Technology Consultants
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From: "han li"
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Subject: Re: [nycwireless] ministumbler
Date:
Fri, 09 Aug 2002 12:27:49 -0400
Kevin,
I'm using PPC2000. When I
launch ministumbler, the application itself opens
up, but no APs are
shown.
-HL
>From: "Kevin M. Agard"
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject:
Re: [nycwireless] ministumbler
>Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:33:00
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>
>Is Ministumbler showing the card itself?
>
>I'm
using an Orinoco gold on an iPaq (underPPC2002) and it works great.
>Which
OS are you using. The PPC hardware shouldn't matter.
>
>han li
wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Anyone using
ministumbler on a Cassiopeia? I'm using the Lucent Silver
>card
>
> but ministumbler does not seem to pick up any APs. Thanks in
advance.
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Subject: [nycwireless] Re: nycwireless
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i am looking to coonect i have a notebook
with a
wireless link sys card.. however i have no idea how to
connect
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> I am
sitting out at Rector Street Park writing this email, this is awesome!!
>
I went to Bowling Green Park earlier and tried to connect there with no
>
success. I believe this was announced at last months meeting, does
anyone
> know the exact area of coverage one must be at in order to access
the node?
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim
>
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> LANG="0">I am sitting out at Rector
Street Park writing this email, this is
> awesome!! I went to Bowling
Green Park earlier and tried to connect there with
> no success. I believe
this was announced at last months meeting, does anyone > know the exact area
of coverage one must be at in order to access the node?<BR>
>
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> From: "Terry Schmidt"
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
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> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Re:
nycwireless digest, Vol 1 #515 - 5 msgs
> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:13:33
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>
> The Bowling Green Park node is definitely live. I'm
sure it is working because
> two people are using it right now.
Coverage of the park area is complete and a
> bit beyond.
>
>
You must launch your web-browser first and click "i accept" on the open
portal,
> just like Bryant park.
>
> --Terry
>
>
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>
> > I am sitting out at Rector Street Park writing
this email, this is awesome!!
> > I went to Bowling Green Park earlier
and tried to connect there with no
> > success. I believe this was
announced at last months meeting, does anyone
> > know the exact area
of coverage one must be at in order to access the node?
> >
>
> Thanks
> >
> > Tim
> >
>
>
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> From: "Anthony Townsend"
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> To: "Telecom-Cities"
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> Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:48:38
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> Subject: [nycwireless] Austin American-Statesmen "Free wireless at
Schlotzsky's"
>
> http://www.austin360.com/statesman/editions/thursday/business_1.html
>
Free wireless at Schlotzsky's
> Sandwich chain begins offering Web access
outside its restaurants with
> rooftop antennas
> By Lori
Hawkins
>
> AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF
>
> Thursday,
August 8, 2002
>
> Funny name, free wireless?
>
>
Schlotzsky's Inc. has begun offering free wireless Internet access at
most
> Austin restaurants, and it is installing rooftop antennas so folks
blocks
> away can log on for free.
>
> A growing number of
hotels and coffeehouses offer wireless connections to
> customers, but the
Austin-based sandwich chain is taking it a step further
> by offering the
service outside its restaurants.
>
> "We thought it would be neat to
be at the hike-and-bike trail and get on
> your laptop wirelessly at no
charge," Chief Executive Officer John Wooley
> said.
>
>
Schlotzsky's is hoping the 4-foot antennas will provide Internet access
to
> laptop users up to a mile from its restaurants. At some locations,
the hope
> is to provide free access up to four miles
away.
>
> Schlotzsky's expects to wire 10 of its Austin restaurants
in the next week.
> Eventually the company hopes to roll out the service
at its 650 stores
> nationally.
>
> So what's in it for
Schlotzsky's? A little advertising -- when users log on,
> a Schlotzsky's
Web page pops up -- and the chance to endear itself to Austin
> techies.
"We're hoping people who like the idea will come in and buy a few
>
sandwiches," Wooley said.
>
> Schlotzsky's earned $600,000 on sales
of $15.2 million in the quarter that
> ended in March, compared with a net
profit of $600,000 on revenue of $15.3
> million during the same quarter
in 2001. Its sales have been flat over the
> past four
quarters.
>
> The wireless system is built around technology known
as Wi-Fi, which stands
> for wireless fidelity. Currently, Wi-Fi primarily
provides broadband
> Internet access to specially equipped laptops within
a few hundred feet of a
> Wi-Fi base station or transmitter. These create
what are known as "hot
> spots" in restaurants, airport lounges and
offices.
>
> The beauty of Wi-Fi is that it is cheap and easy to
install. Schlotzsky's
> will spend about $4,000 to get each restaurant up
and running, plus about
> $800 a month per restaurant for T1, the
high-speed telephone-based
> communications line that links the wireless
access network to the Internet.
> Accessing Wi-Fi requires a special
plug-in circuit card. Most high-end
> laptops now come with them, or they
can be purchased for $40 to $75.
>
> Schlotzsky's wireless offering,
called Cool Cloud, is an extension of the
> free Internet access it began
providing in most Austin stores a year ago.
> That service offers PCs and
iMacs with Internet access.
>
> Wooley's next goal is to expand the
free access to schools, libraries and
> community centers. He would like
to start with a wireless network at
> Huston-Tillotson College, which
could provide wireless connections to nearby
> Blackshear Elementary
School.
>
> "If we're going to do this, we should have a community
purpose as well,"
> Wooley said. "We want to go to locations on the other
side of the Digital
> Divide."
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED];
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> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 17:27:26 -0400
> From: gus
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:
[nycwireless] wireless repeaters
>
> Hi -- I'm new to the
list.
>
> I've been trying to find a device that acts like a
wireless hub but can
> work without an ethernet connection. It
simply connects to some other
> wireless access point wirelessly and
repeats data wirelessly, acting
> sort of like a satellite. It would
be great if these were made cheaply
> and could be solar powered -
allowing data to hop wirelessly node to
> node. i can think of several
nearby places i would hide these things,
> allowing connectivity in
Prospect Park, Brooklyn..
>
> Does anyone know of a wireless hub
that will act as a completely
> wireless repeater?
>
>
--gus
>
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> Message: 5
>
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 20:07:36 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Daniel Thor
Kristjansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To:
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] wireless
repeaters
>
>
> I think a lot of us are looking for this
device. So far it doesn't exist,
> as far as I can tell. the Musenki M-3
might be such a device, but it's
> not out yet and who knows how much it
will cost. You could build
> something with an old laptop, but they are
either not cheap enough or
> can only be had in small
quantities.
>
> I don't know what the application group is up to but
maybe you guys
> could put together a boot floppy for an old laptop that
loads what it
> needs over bootp from a Win/Lin/BSD PC? I've tried just
using linux on a
> floppy, but it's not enough space esp for an old laptop
that can't use
> high density floppies...
>
> I'm planning on
setting something up on the M-3 if it ever becomes
> available. I have
embedded experience and couldn't even get a beta M-1
> though. Plus it
only has Mini-PCI, so it sorta limits the cards you can
> use. Still it
looks like a pretty neat platform.
>
> If you're a programmer you
could also play around with the HostAP
> drivers to get a single radio
solution. The are AP's that can repeat
> with AP's of their own brand,
they do something like that. If you
> created a brand neutral solution
you'd be an overnight hero.
>
> If you have a location with plenty
of power, ie. an outlet and not
> batteries you could use a WAP-11 in
client mode plus another AP to
> create a repeater. That solution could
cost only about $300. WARNING: I
> tried using a WAP-11 in client mode
some months ago and it didn't work,
> it may with more recent
firmware/hardware. I dunno.
>
> -- Daniel
>
> On Thu, 8
Aug 2002, gus wrote:
>
> ]Hi -- I'm new to the list.
>
]
> ]I've been trying to find a device that acts like a wireless hub but
can
> ]work without an ethernet connection. It simply connects to
some other
> ]wireless access point wirelessly and repeats data
wirelessly, acting
> ]sort of like a satellite. It would be great if
these were made cheaply
> ]and could be solar powered - allowing data to
hop wirelessly node to
> ]node. i can think of several nearby places i
would hide these things,
> ]allowing connectivity in Prospect Park,
Brooklyn..
> ]
> ]Does anyone know of a wireless hub that will act
as a completely
> ]wireless repeater?
> ]
> ]--gus
>
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> From: "han li"
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:00:37 -0400
> Subject: [nycwireless]
ministumbler
>
> Hi,
>
> Anyone using ministumbler on a
Cassiopeia? I'm using the Lucent Silver card
> but ministumbler does not
seem to pick up any APs. Thanks in advance.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:33:00
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> From: "Kevin M. Agard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [nycwireless]
ministumbler
>
> Is Ministumbler showing the card
itself?
>
> I'm using an Orinoco gold on an iPaq (underPPC2002) and
it works great.
> Which OS are you using. The PPC hardware shouldn't
matter.
>
> han li wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
>
>
> > Anyone using ministumbler on a Cassiopeia? I'm using the
Lucent Silver card
> > but ministumbler does not seem to pick up any
APs. Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 09
Aug 2002 12:41:18 -0400
From: "Kevin M. Agard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [nycwireless]
ministumbler
Han,
That's not what I meant.
On the
ministumbler screen, right above the menu, it gives should say
"READY" and
then either "No wireless," "No AP" or "[#] AP"
If it says "No wireless"
then MS isn't seeing your card. If it says "No AP"
then it sees the card but
isn't receiving signals from any APs.
han li wrote:
>
>
Kevin,
>
> I'm using PPC2000. When I launch ministumbler, the
application itself opens
> up, but no APs are shown.
>
>
-HL
>
> >From: "Kevin M. Agard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: [nycwireless]
ministumbler
> >Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:33:00 -0400
>
>
> >Is Ministumbler showing the card itself?
> >
>
>I'm using an Orinoco gold on an iPaq (underPPC2002) and it works
great.
> >Which OS are you using. The PPC hardware shouldn't
matter.
> >
> >han li wrote:
> > >
> >
> Hi,
> > >
> > > Anyone using ministumbler on a
Cassiopeia? I'm using the Lucent Silver
> >card
> > > but
ministumbler does not seem to pick up any APs. Thanks in advance.
>
>
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:11:17 -0400 (EDT)
From:
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To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [nycwireless] Bryant Park
Wireless Network - Portal
What are the technical specs for the Portal
being used that requests users
agree to the Terms before using the wireless
access in Bryant Park? What
software / what does it run on / what is it
doing to catch the :80 traffic,
and then allow the wireless user to passthru
after accepting the terms?
L
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From: "Terry Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Bryant Park
Wireless Network - Portal
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 14:31:51
-0400
www.nocat.net NoCatAuth. in Open mode (no
authentication required).
Basically the machine is a firewall/router, and
it redirects all port 80
requests to the local machine, and blocks all other
traffic until the User
clicks "i accept". After the user clicks "i
accept" it changes the firewall
rules to let that IP / MAC address through
for a specified period of time.
After the user leaves, or the time is up, the
firewall rules get removed,
and the user gets redirected to the splash
page.
NoCatAuth runs on OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and Linux. It could be
ported to other
systems also. NoCatAuth also runs the Bowling Green
wireless network, and
is used at many other places, like the Philadelphia
convention center.
NoCatAuth is free and GPLed.
--Terry
>
What are the technical specs for the Portal being used that requests
users
> agree to the Terms before using the wireless access in Bryant
Park? What
> software / what does it run on / what is it doing to
catch the :80
traffic,
> and then allow the wireless user to passthru
after accepting the terms?
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Message: 6
Date: Fri,
9 Aug 2002 14:45:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Bryant Park
Wireless Network - Portal
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Are you running DHCPD off of that
unix box, or off of the AP?
The nocatauth README says:
"* You'll
probably also want to run dhcpd on this machine, but DHCP
can in some
cases be served from your access point or elsewhere on
your local
network. "
How would I go about using the DHCP from my AP rather then
using DHCP on the
unix box? (Would all I need to do is config
nocataut's initial firewall
rules to allow for clients to hit the AP's DHCP
but nothing else?).
It would be nice to see a FAQ with all the info
required for such a project.
I would definitly be interested in seeing the
whole setup, equipment used,
placement, software, coverage, etc, etc.
The "For more info" link off the
main www.nycwireless.net page doesn't really
have much info
[http://www.bryantpark.org/html/wirelesspark.htm].
L
>
www.nocat.net NoCatAuth. in Open mode (no authentication
required).
>
> Basically the machine is a firewall/router, and it
redirects all port
> 80 requests to the local machine, and blocks all
other traffic until
> the User clicks "i accept". After the user
clicks "i accept" it
> changes the firewall rules to let that IP / MAC
address through for a
> specified period of time. After the user leaves,
or the time is up, the
> firewall rules get removed, and the user gets
redirected to the splash
> page.
>
> NoCatAuth runs on
OpenBSD, FreeBSD, and Linux. It could be ported to
> other systems
also. NoCatAuth also runs the Bowling Green wireless
> network, and
is used at many other places, like the Philadelphia
> convention center.
NoCatAuth is free and GPLed.
>
> --Terry
>
>> What
are the technical specs for the Portal being used that requests
>>
users agree to the Terms before using the wireless access in Bryant
>>
Park? What software / what does it run on / what is it doing to
catch
>> the :80
> traffic,
>> and then allow the
wireless user to passthru after accepting the
>> terms?
>
>
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From: "Terry Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Bryant Park
Wireless Network - Portal
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:07:41 -0400
>
Are you running DHCPD off of that unix box, or off of the AP?
We are
running DHCPD on the NoCatAuth box, and also a caching DNS server.
There
isn't really any advantage to running the DHCP server on the AP rather
than
the
NoCat server, since you are going to have to be using APs that are
in
bridging, not NAT mode.
You wouldn't have to do anything
special. Just set the AP as the DHCP
server (if you AP has that
feature)
and set the AP to bridging. No special firewall rules
necessary.
> It would be nice to see a FAQ with all the info required
for such a
project.
> I would definitly be interested in seeing the
whole setup, equipment used,
> placement, software, coverage, etc,
etc. The "For more info" link off the
> main www.nycwireless.net
page doesn't really have much info
> [http://www.bryantpark.org/html/wirelesspark.htm].
We
are always looking for volunteers to write good
documentation.
--Terry
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Message: 8
From:
"Forrest Cicogni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 16:00:59
-0400
Subject: [nycwireless] Off topic - Looking for Floppy Drive
I'm
in immediate need of a 5-1/4" floppy drive if anybody has one for
sale. See
me off-list.
Thanks,
Forrest
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Message:
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From: "Joanna Truffaut" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 02:37:50 +0000
Subject:
[nycwireless] change of name
Hello,
For your information, the
wireless association of Paris, France, "Wi-Fi
Paris" recently changed its
name (temporarely?)to "Paris-Sansfil" , which
means in French "wireless", and
can be found at the following address :
www.paris-sansfil.net
Please
pass the info along.
Thank
you,
Joanna.
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