As one of the people who has been trying to head up this discussion on 
our Apps list (I think that any discussion regarding the technical 
merits of one solution over another should definitely move over to that 
list), let me set some things straight:

Let me state first that if you have any input what-so-ever about which 
maps system NYCwireless chooses to use, please make your voice heard. We 
have discussions about this on the Apps list, and welcome anyone who 
wants to comment.

Let me state at the beginning that NYCwireless is a volunteer run 
organization run for the benefit of its members and the community. As 
such, the community looks to those of us who lead certain aspects of the 
group to make informed decisions. Most people on this list I'm sure 
don't care what maps system we use, just so long as it works. If you do, 
then you can help us make that decision.

As I have said before, we have made no decisions regarding which maps 
database we are moving to, however we have been investigating the few 
options out there. I apologize for not moving faster on this, but as all 
of us who are trying to contribute to the NYCwireless community,my time 
is limited.

Bon, as a community, we certainly appreciate the work you've put forth 
with your database technology. You're developing a solution that is very 
robust and I'm sure quite useful for your purposes. I will say, however, 
that the features of your database system don't entirely match what we 
(the people who have been involved in this discussion) have been looking 
for in a replacement for our maps database. Foremost on the list is 
usability of the web interface, and unfortunately your database system 
doesn't yet match what is available in our current system. I am aware 
that wasn't your first priority, which is completely understandable, as 
you had other important goals to achieve with your system.

As for opensource vs. proprietary systems, let me state that for us (the 
people who head up certain aspects of NYCwireless) this is not the 
issue. My primary concern for our maps database is that we (as 
developers and sysadmins) can easily make changes to the system whenever 
necessary. Unfortunately, were we to go with a system hosted by a third 
party (for example, queens college), we wouldn't have the direct access 
to make the changes that we need or want to make.

Furthermore, we are all volunteers with limited resources and limited 
time. We need to go with a solution that will minimize the amout of time 
and effort needed to maintain and administer. I've had a lot of 
experience with Oracle, but I can't speak for the other people who do 
sysadmining for NYCwireless. I know from experience that Oracle requires 
alot of knowledge to operate properly and efficiently, and we don't have 
that knowledge or resources to make Oracle worthwhile. MySQL, on the 
other hand, is easy to administer, is known by everyone, and operates 
quite well under any server load we could expect.

Remember, we're not a big corporation, we're just a bunch of people who 
do this for fun!
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