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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:nycwireless-admin@;lists.spack.org] On Behalf Of Seoane, Dan
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 16:06
To: 'Ben Serebin'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: WAS: [nycwireless] SpeakEasy.net Wireless sharing policy? NOW:
(Covad friendly to wireless users)


http://www.r21online.com/archives/000119.html

"We don't think it's good policy to open up your line to people you're
not responsible for, but it's not an expressly forbidden policy,'' said
Hunter Middleton, Covad's group manager of consumer product marketing.
He said customers need to know there are potential liabilities, such as
unauthorized users downloading illegal material like child pornography,
and that sharing bandwidth with others may slow the connection speed. It
seems like a lot of effort for a service that's fairly low priced,''
Middleton said, noting that DSL services can be had for as little as $50
per month."

Taken from
http://www.chinawlan.net/articleDetail.asp?CatID=93&NewsID=4905

Covad's AUP http://covad.net/legal/docs/Covad_AUP_091902.pdf

Covad's Customer Policy
http://covad.net/legal/docs/CustomerPolicies_092702.pdf

-d

PS This NOT a sales pitch, I am not a mkting or sales dork, I am an
architect in engineering....

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Serebin [mailto:ben@;nycwireless.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:37 PM
To: Seoane, Dan
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] SpeakEasy.net Wireless sharing policy?


Hello Dan,

        Does your TOS reflect that? Where can I see it...

Thanks,
-Ben


----- Original Message -----
From: "Seoane, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Ben Serebin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: [nycwireless] SpeakEasy.net Wireless sharing policy?


> Don't forget Covad, We are friendly to all Wireless access
>
> -d
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Serebin [mailto:ben@;nycwireless.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:23 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] SpeakEasy.net Wireless sharing policy?
>
>
> Hello All,
>
>         Just a little reminder... the recommended wireless friendly
> broadband providers in the New York area are:
>
> AceDSL.com
> Bway.net
> Cloud9.net
>
>         Also, even though Speakeasy's TOS is vague, the CEO has made
> comments that wireless is OK. This link also identifies other ISPs 
> nationwide.
>
>
http://www.eff.org/Infra/Wireless_cellular_radio/wireless_friendly_isp_l
ist.
> html
>
> -Ben
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin M. Agard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] SpeakEasy.net Wireless sharing policy?
>
>
> > Their TOS are online at
> > http://www.speakeasy.net/main.php?page=res_dsltos
> >
> > Kev wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi.  Does anyone know what is the official policy of Speakeasy.net
> > > in regards to bandwidth sharing?  I am interested in setting up an

> > > AP in
> Park
> > > Slope and Speakeasy just have this new offer that looks kind of
> > > nice.
> Any
> > > comments?
> > >
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