Hello Alan,

I don't see mass adoption happening any time soon, although MS might
have a thing or 2 to say about it, then most people I doubt would
trust MS as far as it can secure them already, oh wait it can't...

Half the reason decent crypto isn't more widely spread was in part
due to stupid crypto laws in the US...

Hardware crypto devices are fairly limited in any case as to what they
can protect us from, usually they are used in self serving interests
of money or power grabbing exercises... RSA/Verisign and Paladin...

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Tuesday, December 10, 2002, 6:53:08 AM, you wrote:

AL> Auth devices, not just user ID's.  It'll save money,
AL> increase security, bring down user costs, create
AL> impetus for adoption/familiarization, and help achieve
AL> equitability in access to services.  Alan

AL> --- evilbunny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 
>> BH> More fuel for the flames:
>> 
>> BH>
>>
AL> http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,56742,00.html
>> 
>> Notes to pay attention to, said terrorist, buy
>> stolen mobile phone, not likely to be able to trace 
>> easily, said terrorist buy prepaid sims, said 
>> terrorist walk into dodgy cafe, use pay phone or any

>> other billion ways of "getting onto the network"
>> 
>> said terrorist take tanker full of diesel and
>> fertiliser in CBD of any city anywhere, do massive 
>> amount of damage, zero amount of being detected... 
>> cyber terrorism is a load of horse sh!t I'm sorry, 
>> but how many people lately have been killed due to 
>> it really?
>> 
>> Well unless you count the FBI agent head of the FBI
>> unit in charge of cyber security, killed by the 
>> snipper running round last month, that single bullet

>> did more then 100 or 1000 "cyber terrorists" could 
>> ever do... It was real world damage that could be 
>> easily measured in the loss of man power... How many

>> cyber crimes are so easily accounted for?
>> 
>> Then of course the most crippling thing to happen to
>> the net in the last few years is due to security 
>> issues with microsoft products, I love you and 
>> melissa viruses, not to mention all the zombies 
>> floating about that can be activated anywhere world 
>> wide to virtually take down any network anywhere...
>> 
>> As the other guy says in the paste below, it's self
>> serving the interests of those that fear 
>> competition...
AL> <snip>

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