Hello All,
Yes, Louis hit the nail on the head. That VPN announcement is all
marketing and no substance. Real solution for security, is people should be
using email protocols over SSL/SSH and Web Mail over SSL entirely. They
should also demand that their email providers support and use STARTTLS, for
mail server to mail server encryption. If my Win OS email server (Merak)
supports it, all those Linux/BSD guys should be running it too. ;-)
-Ben
P.S. Let's not start a war on encryption, please....
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From: "withoutwires" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] AT&T, MCI to offer public VPNs
> This seems silly to me. While it does make your wireless more secure, you
> are essentually VPNing into them, and then getting your e-mail. So from
> their network to your e-mail/IM/etc server, you still are only as secure
> as the traffic between those two. This seems to not take advantage of the
> real benefits of using VPN which is end to end encryption.
>
> One could use SSL / SSH (That is what I use for e-mail / remote
> connections when hanging outside in the sun at one of the many NYC
> wireless nodes). Now I would like a secure IM solution, I'll have to
> investigate that. I believe ICQ supports end to end encryption and I
> believe an AIM beta supports it as well, haven't seen anything about yahoo
> supporting it. Of course, having a single encrypted connection rather
> then having to 'worry' about each of your applications handling it would
> be nice, but it doesn't seem like the below hotspotvpn would help.
>
> OK, now that I review again, the below is good, but it seems if someone
> was serious about security, it might not be the best solution since it
> isn't end to end; but it would 'secure' your wireless connection so others
> can't peek at your traffic, that is good. But I can't imagine someone
> paying for that. Then again, I can't understand how Starbucks/T-Mobile is
> charging $30/mo for wireless access either; but I'm sure someone is paying
> (I used to!).
>
> Louis
>
>
>
> > this would actually be a nice feature to have free @ hotspots, u can get
> > it for $8 @ http://www.hotspotvpn.com at the moment.
> >
> > - jon
> >
> > AT&T, MCI offer VPN solutions for WiFi
> > AT&T and MCI yesterday announced separate plans to offer VPN services
> > for clients on WiFi networks. AT&T inked a partnership with GRIC
> > Communications to offer secure wireless access to its enterprise
> > clients. The new VPN service will be available at more than 2,000 WiFi
> > locations in 20 countries by the end of this year. AT&T also said it
> > would offer VPN services for enterprise users on Cometa Networks' new
> > WiFi service. AT&T is a partner in Cometa along with IBM and Intel.
> >
> > In a separate announcement, MCI said it has partnered with WiFi service
> > operator Wayport to offer VPN services for MCI's enterprise clients who
> > use Wayport's company network. GRIC Communications also has a VPN deal
> > with Wayport.
> >
> >
>
>
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