Things have changed immensely in the last two years in France.  WRT
laws/regulations etc, I can think of three important changes:

1. you no longer have to apply to ART (telecom/airwaves authority) to
operate an AP in your own home (yes at the beginning, I was supposed to
and actually did, write a letter requesting a licence for using an
RG-1000 in my home!)

2. you can now use any of the first 13 channels without fear that the
Gendarmes or the military will come crashing through your door
(previously channels 1-9 or 10 or whatever were reserved for the
military!)

3. you can now sell Wifi access (a la starbucks etc)

To get back to Yuri's question, I'm really not sure what the laws are
concerning accessing someone's AP without express prior consent (and
let's not go back to "does a DHCP server offering an IP address
consitute an invitation...").  I remember discussing this a couple of
years ago on a French list, opinion was divided IIRC, pretty much like
previous discussions here.

Note that there are now 25 countries in the EU, each with its own laws
and telecom/airwaves authority.

For more info for Paris
http://www.paris-sansfil.info/CartePSF2004 (map showing 'open' nodes,
like NYC node owners add their own node to the DB)
Couldn't find a forum for the moment, I know there are mailing lists
however (and yes you'll be able to ask your question in English ;)

For France
http://www.wireless-fr.org/spip/

HTH

Christopher
Paris 12e


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Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2004 16:05:02 -0400
From: Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Using Open Nodes in France?]
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On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 02:29:37PM -0400, Yury G wrote:
> Is anyone familiar with how the law,  gov't regulations, or ISP 
> user-agreements treat the situation of using a stranger's residential 
> access point to get onto the internet with/without them knowing?  If
I, 
> for example, use a stranger's access point to browse the web am I 
> violating a particular law or agreement?  Is this legal grey area in 
> the EU and France (that depends on a number or factors)?  Or is it
more 
> clearly violating one of the above?
> 
> thanks,
> Yury
Hi Yuri, we used to have a Madmouselle Joanna Troufaut of (the renamed)
paris-sanfil.net that would be a good athority on such things.
I recall from her talks that france was very restrictive with wifi
access. But that may have gotten less restritive in the last 2 yrs.
-Kev
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