Hi Jon,
I've attached my thoughts to your comments.
Jose
On Oct 29, 2004, at 9:32 AM, Jon Baer wrote:
Id be interested in this and helping out (if possible) .. I think this is a
great idea because it's obvious that more and more devices are becoming
WiFi/EDGE/3G enabled and it would be cool to show off what some phones can
and can't do in a SIG.
I definitely think we can use your help as well as anyone else that may be interested in this topic. These devices, specially the smartphones, are very close in functionality to computers. And we already know that there's a huge number of things that can be accomplished on a computer (bookkeeping, video and image editing, internet browsing, gaming, communication, etc.). Most of these activities can be accomplished in one way or another with a smartphone. For example, editing word or excel files may not necessarily be the type of thing you'll want to do all the time on a phone, but it is actually possible to do that today. Some people today carry their PowerPoint presentations as a backup on a phone, just in case the computer crashes. They just hook it up directly to a monitor or projector and they are all set.
(Although I sometimes hate those meetings that turn
into the constant sales pitch which tend to happen a lot, ehh then again if
anyone needs a VPN salesman look me up! :-))
Im also personally interested in the J2ME movement (items like using SMS for
backchannel stuff), also security stuff like Bluesnarfing from AI Digital
needs to be demoed for sure.
Java on phones should not even be called Java. There are more differences between the J2SE/J2EE (Java for computers) and J2ME (Java for phones and handhelds) than just the devices they run on. The security architecture of J2SE/J2EE is not the same on J2ME. On top of that, you never know what functionality the manufacturer of the phone will allow you to access from the J2ME libraries. Security is also another issue.
Bluesnarfing is a hot topic in mobile security right now. I would love to see a demo of that.
Can we start an nycwireless-mobile list? (seems like a lot of people from
the meeting are trying all different vendor services that would be cool to
hear about)
- Jon
In a way, I agree with you on this, but at the same time I wouldn't want to isolate the topic from the "regular" NYCWireless audience that subscribes to it. This topic is complementary to the main theme and mission of the organization. At the same time, we have to cure ourselves from this data centric, large-screen mentality that we Americans have. We need to start thinking of these devices as "computers" (since we can relate to what a "computer" is) that have 12 keys for a keypad (not a keyboard) and a really small screen for an interface.
I can go even further and dare to say that the "digital divide" may not actually exist or be as serious as people make it to be, if you think of these devices as a computer. All you need to think about is all the countries that have leapfrogged the landline infrastructure and use mobiles. In most of these countries voice and data come standard with their plans. Almost like going to BestBuy or CompUSA and picking up an HP or Mac that comes with a subscription to a DSL or cable modem connection. These people using these phones are mobile and always connected. Our concept of a digital experience (computing) is obsolete and focused on the wrong device.
I may be wrong, but I think this topic should be included in the regular mailing list.
Jose
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Subject: [nycwireless] Mobility SIG
Hi Ben, NYCWireless members:
I would like to know what the procedure will be to make the Mobility SIG I spoke about yesterday in the meeting "official" within the NYCWireless organization and website? The purpose of the SIG will be to introduce the members to the current advances in mobility (specifically smartphones) and how these technologies are complementary to WLAN technologies in place today.
I would like to be able to present on some of topics and to be able to bring to the meetings individuals from the main smartphone manufacturers that I have relationships with (Nokia, Samsung, PalmOne) as well as some developers, like the guys from Dodgeball.com.
Like I said yesterday, I believe this SIG will create a lot of content (conversations, comments, questions, etc.) and I'm not sure if you want to host it at NYCWireless.net. I may be able to get a TypePad account from the guys at Six Apart specifically for the SIG and maybe have a link to it from NYCWireless.net similar to what you have on the Social Impact group.
To those interested to know what some people do with these smartphones take a look at http://www.bodamer.com/albert/ and to get an idea of the social effect that some of these devices are having go to http://www.thenewatlantis.com/archive/6/rosen.htm
Regards,
Jose Marinez www.jmarinez.blogspot.com
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