Jim,

Don't confuse Wyden's bill with Net Neutrality. Net Neutrality is about preventing the de-facto regulation by telcos about what can travel on internet lines.

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On Mar 16, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Jim Henry wrote:

Ruben,
    I've no doubt that SOME of the Internet may be public
property,though I don't know for sure. The Internet is not a
single entity, it's made up of thousands of switches, routers,
muxes, optical segments, etc., that are indeed private property.
To be honest,you seem so uninformed on this subject I'm surprised
you attempt to debate it.
    If you look into this pending bill, “The Internet
Non-Discrimination Act of 2006,” by Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), you
will see that if passed it will place the FCC in the business of
regulating the Internet.  If you can show that Time Warner is
involved in getting this legislation introduced,I willbe very
surprised.
Jim



On Thu Mar 16 06:36:03 PST 2006, Ruben Safir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 05:46 -0800, Jim Henry wrote:
Ruben,
  Sorry you hate me.I don't know you well enough to even like or
dis-like you. ;-)


I know enough about you.  Your trying to hurt my children and
make them
slaves to Time Warner's agenda on what they are and are not
allowed to
read.


   As to regulating the Internet, it is the so-called
"Net-Neutrality" advocates who are pushing to regulate it

That would be Time Warner trying to regulate it.
 and have even introduced a bill in Congress to attempt to tell
private companies


The internet is not private property and if Time Warner et al
hopes to
remain a player in providing common carriage, they had best get
behind
the publics demand for common access or they WILL be replaced as
cable
access providers.



how they should handle traffic on their own networks!


Its not their network.

But if they care to remain a common carrier to the public
internet, they
had better shape up or we will replace them with someone who does
provide common carrier access....Google, Covad or IBM for example
might
be interested in replacing Dolan et al.

Ruben

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