A) NYCwireless isn't "moving" anywhere. We support and encourage the
marketplace and fair competition as the primary tools to creating better
broadband services for everyone.
B) This isn't regulation and it's not a contract. We expect companies
that publicly support these principles to conduct business so that they
maximize profit, customer satisfaction, security and innovation. The
goal is too encourage a free and open marketplace for content and
applications. If you took these principles and ran your business into
the ground because of it, um, well I can't help you. But beware those
that intentionally wish to mislead the public. There will be consequences.
C) Is that a yes?
D) Come on say yes, you know you want to.
- Dustin -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2006, Dustin Goodwin wrote:
While Washington DC types try to figure out a solution to the Network
Neutrality problem. NYCwireless continues to drive the industry towards
NN via the NYCwireless Network Neutrality Broadband Challenge Please
contact your ISP and ask them to pledge their support. Link:
http://www.nycwireless.net/tiki-index.php?page=BroadbandChallenge
Government regulation is the wrong solution! Consumers must speak up and
drive change from within the industry.
The first 2 ISPs that have pledge to support the NN principles are NYC
based. This is a great example of the tremendous courage and vision of
NYC based businesses. Please reward them with your business: Bway.net
(http://www.bway.net) Panix (http://www.panix.com)
Where do I register my agreement to the "4 principles" with
a note that "You will take the right to control traffic on my network from
of my cold dead hands"?
My customer's right to use my network end right where my right to control
what goes on my network begins. You don't like it - use someone else's
network.
The principles are hollow, as there are loads of things that are
*bad*, and that everyone filters, yet they remain lawful.
Examples:
1) CAN-SPAM compliant bulk mail - technically, it is legal, and would be
covered by your principle #1. So, should I be able to send "CAN-SPAM"
compliant mail through any ISP subscribing to your policy?
I can list many things that are filtered by most ISPs as a matter of
course:
a) NetBIOS traffic (tcp port 137-139) - that'll block "applications and
services of their choice", if this application is netbios filesharing.
However, every ISP recognizes that few people use insecure filesharing and
that blocking of junk traveling on port 139 is more important.
b) Blocking of MS-SQL port 1434 - while I'm sure its a legitimate
application to connect to a remote ms-sql server, it is also an attack
vector of sql-slammer worm, and has been blocked for past 3 years by every
ISP with clue.
I'm sure if I check more filters, I'll find more examples of "things that
are perfectly legal but commonly blocked".
2) Bway's anonymous DSL http://www.bway.net/bway/dsl/anondsl.html flies in
the face on #2 - anonymous access is designed to stifle law enforcement.
3) While I have no real opposition to #3, I believe that 'do not harm the
network' is a vague and hollow standard. Who determines what harms the
network or not? If it is ISP, how is it different from controlling what
CPE can and cannot be used on the network.
Remember, Ma Bell's original justification for not permitting
customer-owned phones is that they the phones would "hurt the network"
Don't get me wrong, I have respect for bway and for panix - but I think
their support of this misguided initiative is wrong.
For one, I'm saddened that nycwireless is moving to the bandcamp of
'consumer protection' instead of promoting competition between the ISPs so
consumer can choose wisely.
The bottom line is, you will never be able to write rules that are both
"protecting the consumer's right to use network as they see fit" and
"protecting the ISP officers' fiduciary responsibility to use the network
to obtain highest return for the shareholders", so the only logical
consequence is to "let ISPs do whatever they want, and let consumers
choose wisely".
-alex
--
NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/
Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/
Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
--
NYCwireless - http://www.nycwireless.net/
Un/Subscribe: http://lists.nycwireless.net/mailman/listinfo/nycwireless/
Archives: http://lists.nycwireless.net/pipermail/nycwireless/
