i think this one is clearly a northern. i lean pretty strongly towards thinking the jones beach one is a loggerhead, though. Richard R. Veit Professor Biology Department CSI/CUNY 2800 Victory Boulevard Staten Island, NY 10314 718-982-3853 Fax 718-982-3852
________________________________ From: Angus Wilson <oceanwander...@gmail.com> To: NYSBIRDS-L <NYSBIRDS-L@CORNELL.EDU> Cc: Shaibal Mitra <shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu>; "Burke, Tom" <tom.bu...@rsmi.com>; Hugh McGuinness <hmcguinn...@ross.org>; Christopher Wood <pinic...@gmail.com>; Andy Guthrie <guthr...@gmail.com>; Kevin McGowan <k...@cornell.edu> Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 10:36:52 AM Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Identity of Jones Beach Shrike It seems appropriate to throw one more bird into the discussion mix; a shrike that I found on 31 Oct 2010 in the Theodore Roosevelt County Park in Montauk (Suffolk Co.), a few hundred yards from a Brewer's Blackbird. If I recall correctly, this was shortly after the discovery of the Jones Beach shrike, and perhaps the only other shrike seen on Long Island during the fall/winter season (so far). Unfortunately the Montauk bird did not linger beyond the one day. It also gave the impression of being small and was harassed relentlessly by a pair of Northern Mockingbirds, making photography difficult. I still have to sit down and look carefully at it relative to the Northern/Loggerhead discussion, but thought other independent opinions would be helpful. Here is a link to the best photos I obtained. http://picasaweb.google.com/oceanwanderers/SouthForkLongIslandNY?authkey=Gv1sRgCOa3ua3EuLjJ3wE# -- Angus Wilson New York City & The Springs, NY, USA http://birdingtotheend.blogspot.com/ -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html 3) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --