I would hope that a deer census was performed and that hunting was deemed 
necessary. 

Seems like birders might be more of an issue to hunters than hunters to birders 
and the birds.  And note that it’s only open to bow hunting and from the ground 
or temporary stands. 

Also, if the gov’t shutdown continues, they won’t be able to issue permits!

Larry 


From: gochfeld...@aol.com 
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 5:22 PM
To: aiant...@earthlink.net ; NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu 
Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Deer hunting to be permitted on Shawangunk Grasslands 
NWR !!!!!!!

What is the deer population there? Are there natural predators? What is the 
proposed length of season? There are other areas in NYS, not on refuges, where 
the deer population has exploded resulting in massive destruction of underbrush 
and the loss of habitat for understory birds. 



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From: AJIT ANTONY <aiant...@earthlink.net>
To: NYSbirds-L <NYSbirds-L@cornell.edu>
Sent: Fri, Oct 11, 2013 4:55 pm
Subject: [nysbirds-l] Deer hunting to be permitted on Shawangunk Grasslands NWR 
!!!!!!!


One of the members Irene Warshauer of the Mearns Bird Club, Orange County, New 
York brought to the attention of our listserv members that the federal 
government is going to allow hunting of deer on Shawangunk Grasslands NWR  [the 
old Galeville Airport] ! 
We only have a short time to respond, until October 24.  I can see Short-eared 
Owls, Harriers and Rough-legged Hawks definitely being affected by hunting in 
the area,  and affecting birding. 
If anyone is knowledgeable about the subject and has any specific information 
we can put in our comments, please post.
Ajit I Antony M.D.
http://www.doi.gov/news/pressreleases/interior-department-proposes-expansion-of-hunting-fishing-opportunities-in-national-wildlife-refuge-system.cfm
http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/28605.html for Hunting Season:
Bow Hunting Oct. 1 - Nov. 15 and Dec. 9 - Dec. 17
Regular Hunting Season - Nov. 16 - Dec. 8
https://www.federalregister.gov/articles/2013/09/24/2013-21804/2013-2014-refuge-specific-hunting-and-sport-fishing-regulations
Shawangunk Grasslands National Wildlife Refuge 
A. Migratory Game Bird Hunting.[RESERVED]
B. Upland Game Hunting.[RESERVED]
C. Big Game Hunting. We allow hunting of white-tailed deer on designated areas 
of the refuge in accordance with State of New York regulations and subject to 
the following conditions:
1. You must submit a Big/Upland Game Hunt Application (FWS Form 3-2356) to hunt 
on the refuge. We require hunters to possess a signed refuge hunt permit (name 
and address only) at all times while scouting and hunting on the refuge. We 
charge a fee for all hunters except youth age 16 and younger.
2. We provide hunters with hunt maps and parking permits (name only), which 
they must clearly display in their vehicle. Hunters who park on the refuge must 
park in identified hunt parking areas.
3. We prohibit the use of all-terrain vehicles (ATVs) on the refuge.
4. We prohibit baiting on refuge lands (see � 32.2(h)).
5. We require hunters to wear (in a conspicuous manner) a minimum of 400 square 
inches (2,600 square centimeters) of solid-color, hunter-orange clothing or 
material on the head, chest, and back.
6. We prohibit hunters using or erecting permanent blinds.
7. We allow pre-hunt scouting beginning two weeks prior to the bow opener and 
continuing through the end of the deer season.
8. The refuge only allows archery equipment (crossbows permitted) to harvest 
deer.
D. Sport Fishing.[RESERVED]Show citation box
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