Paul,
You raise a good point. There is one site which historically has been THE site for reporting rare birds state wide, and that is the Cornell listserve NYS birds. While this is not only a rare bird alert, as its scope is broader, it still is the best place to get the word out on a rare bird. Unfortunately it has not been used as much in recent years due to people posting on other local and regional sites, as you noted. I believe there been a perception - incorrect in my opinion- in the eyes of some upstate birders that it is mostly a downstate / NYC /Long Island listserve, possibly due to a majority of posts being from that area, at least in the past. And to Paul's point there have often been many "run of the mill" type daily posts of little interest to people who don't live in that area. This has resulted in many birders upstate using their regional listserves only, although a few people have made a good effort to cross post and get the word out to a wider audience. I don't think it takes much effort to list 2 addresses for those wanting to use their local sites and still get the word out to a wider audience when a rarity shows up. But maybe to Paul's point a strictly RBA site state wide would address the issue. But someone would have to take responsibility for its upkeep. Dave Klauber ________________________________ From: bounce-121020070-3714...@list.cornell.edu <bounce-121020070-3714...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Paul R Sweet <sw...@amnh.org> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:25 PM To: Andrew Baksh Cc: Ethan Maitra; ebirds...@yahoogroups.com; nysbirds-l Subject: Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: [nysbirds-l] Brooklyn Ash-throated Flycatcher As I think I'm being called out here perhaps let's talk about some recommendations on how rarities are reported? Andrew you could take the lead here? One problem is that there are two “rare bird alerts” for NY that are often filled with run-of-the-mill daily lists and non rarity sightings. While these are of interest to some, they dilute the power of an RBA. As a suggestion could we make a recommendation that one of these becomes a true RBA for NYSARC reportable or at least scarce taxa only (nysbirds-l@cornell.edu<mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>) and the other a site for daily lists and musings on other aspects of local birding (ebirds...@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ebirds...@yahoogroups.com>). Of course the proliferation of bird alerts on Social Media such as #birdcp on Twitter and various WhatsAp and text alert groups add to the confusion. In short it would be great to standardize how and where true rare bird info appears. Ideally we should have a true RBA listserve like the one that Lloyd ran a few years ago. Over to you Andrew. Paul Sweet Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941 On Nov 20, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Andrew Baksh birdingd...@gmail.com<mailto:birdingd...@gmail.com> [ebirdsnyc] <ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com<mailto:ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com>> wrote: Good point but for many, the Nassau County ATFL might be out of the way. More interesting for me, is how the Brooklyn bird was reported. It appears to me that we are once again seeing a break down on how rare to uncommon birds are being reported. I'll withhold fire for now but I again urge all in the game to keep up the generosity of sharing and sharing early and to the wider community. There are a lot of birders who don't text, tweet or are not using any form of social media to communicate. Let's not leave them out. 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