Bob Can you point me to a reference that says bill length is a diagnostic character for this species pair?
Thanks, Paul Paul Sweet Collection Manager Department of Ornithology American Museum of Natural History Central Park West at 79th Street New York, NY 10024 Tel: 212 769 5780 Cell: 718 757 5941 From: <bounce-121031393-11471...@list.cornell.edu<mailto:bounce-121031393-11471...@list.cornell.edu>> on behalf of robert adamo <radamo4...@gmail.com<mailto:radamo4...@gmail.com>> Reply-To: robert adamo <radamo4...@gmail.com<mailto:radamo4...@gmail.com>> Date: Sunday, November 27, 2016 at 2:07 PM To: "nysbirds-l@cornell.edu<mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>" <nysbirds-l@cornell.edu<mailto:nysbirds-l@cornell.edu>> Subject: [nysbirds-l] ? selasphorus sp. hummingbird (Rufous or Allen's) Without again obtaining a discernible "tell-tale tail" photo, and in the full knowledge of the extremely low odds of the Aquebogue bird being an Allen's, after further perusing yesterday's, as well as today's, shots, it seems the bill is too long for a Rufous, plus it appears to be slightly de-curved. So...I'm led to ask the following question: has hybridization ever been documented between these 2 species of the same genus ? Cheers Bob 🙃 -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsWELCOME&data=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C3ea2839c89b24ad7619f08d416f8b4e7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C1&sdata=G5ijALkf9XFO%2FBxOJJGQsReutgPWBkyKXLiRmrOyJMI%3D&reserved=0> Rules and Information<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsRULES&data=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C3ea2839c89b24ad7619f08d416f8b4e7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C1&sdata=yvEnm3HhWR6Cw6EWy8nKbd2xIiO9KQVKv8XXxDTS%2FZE%3D&reserved=0> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northeastbirding.com%2FNYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm&data=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C3ea2839c89b24ad7619f08d416f8b4e7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C1&sdata=k5Hw9Uat7%2BN7ms2QLiZI7pgLwL9oqq6ye%2FfM9Rt%2BDto%3D&reserved=0> Archives: The Mail Archive<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fnysbirds-l%40cornell.edu%2Fmaillist.html&data=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C3ea2839c89b24ad7619f08d416f8b4e7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C1&sdata=HSfVm%2BuhVB3ZMCrB6LnEKzdeBy2IO2qZDWn4ZECuF%2FY%3D&reserved=0> Surfbirds<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.surfbirds.com%2Fbirdingmail%2FGroup%2FNYSBirds-L&data=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C3ea2839c89b24ad7619f08d416f8b4e7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C1&sdata=pwktBFxTmuNEDZMlIXxIjx68OFDDu%2FoOPYjHYkCdXq4%3D&reserved=0> BirdingOnThe.Net<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbirdingonthe.net%2Fmailinglists%2FNYSB.html&data=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C3ea2839c89b24ad7619f08d416f8b4e7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C1&sdata=X05nMw6uXjtz5Ye%2F20QMrLpc6qNZf3Z%2B675bSocrtaM%3D&reserved=0> Please submit your observations to eBird<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Febird.org%2Fcontent%2Febird%2F&data=01%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C3ea2839c89b24ad7619f08d416f8b4e7%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C1&sdata=9IjllnYJYwaHLU32Tq2J9yAbjiti2m6wXgYrVdLEDio%3D&reserved=0>! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/NYSB.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --