What exactly does "winter nonbreeder group" mean?

On Dec 2, 2017 12:08 AM, "& [NYSBIRDS] digest" <nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>
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> NYSBIRDS-L Digest for Saturday, December 02, 2017.
>
> 1. The Egret
> 2. =?UTF-8?Q?Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher=2D_YES?=
> 3. =?utf-8?B?UmU6IFtlYmlyZHNueWNdIEhhbW1vbmTigJlzIEZseWNhdGNoZXItIFlFUw==
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> 4. =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[ebirdsnyc]_Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher-_YES?=
> 5. Breezy Point Lingering Migrants 11-29
> 6. =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[nysbirds-l]_Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher-_YES?=
> 7. Prothonotary Warbler - Yes
> 8. Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 9. RE: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 10. RE: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 11. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 12. NYS eBird Hotspots: State, Counties & Locations Updated (Dec/'17)
> 13. Re: Prothonotary Warbler - Yes
> 14. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 15. RBA Buffalo Bird Report 01 Dec 2017
> 16. NYC/Long Island Rarity Roundup This Weekend
> 17. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> 18. NYC Area RBA: 1 December 2017
> 19. Ramble Map with Named Locations
> 20. Re: Ramble Map with Named Locations
> 21. Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: Ramble Map with Named Locations
> 22. Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
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> Subject: The Egret
> From: Larry Trachtenberg <trachtenb...@amsllp.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 13:07:20 +0000
> X-Message-Number: 1
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>
> I'd like to share a  passage from a wonderful novel I recently read, "The
> Yellow Birds" by Kevin Powers, which takes its place alongside Tim Obrien's
> "The Things They Carried", Mailer's "The Naked and the Dead", and
> Remarque's "All Quiet on the Western Front"  -- this time the setting is
> the Iraq war. The protagonist is by a stream near his Richmond, VA home --
> it's an magical experience most birders have had or at least can envision
> with a large wader but just can't express nearly as well:
>
> "My feet were in the water, and the river ran docilely by and I was hardly
> a speck on the landscape and I was glad. An egret flew just over my
> shoulder and skimmed the water so close and I thought there was no way a
> body could be so close to the edge of a thing and stay there and be in
> control. But the tips of its wings skimmed along the water just the same.
> The egret didn't seem to mind what I believed, and it tilted some and
> disappeared into the glare of the gone sun and it was full of grace."
>
> I see that Brett Bonkamp's brilliant bit of Hammond's flycatcher satire
> has been censored from the archives. Thus, it seems that when posting
> especially as the Holidays approach and an insane 2017 comes to a close --
> and while I enjoy a good put down as much as the next person -- perhaps we
> should all give a listen once again to John Prine's "People Putting People
> Down". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY0VmRR8FHU  Or better yet, spend
> some time admiring his amazing canon listening to Sam Stone, (apropos the
> war novels, I guess), Hello in There, Souvenirs, Paradise, Angel from
> Montgomery or Lake Marie.
>
> Good flycatchers to all.
>
>
> L. Trachtenberg
> Ossining
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> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher=2D_YES?=
> From: Anders Peltomaa <anders.pelto...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:05:55 -0500
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> 9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar
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> It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...
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> Anders Peltomaa
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> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:37:47 +0000
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> Anders and wonder dog Bonnie will have the bird waiting on all of the
> upstaters early tomorrow morning!
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> 9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar
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> It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...
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> Anders Peltomaa
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> Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[ebirdsnyc]_Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher-_YES?=
> From: Michael Zito <michaelz...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 10:58:03 -0500
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> Azalea pond right now.
> mike z
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> > On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:37 AM, nathan o'reilly natro...@hotmail.com
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> > Anders and wonder dog Bonnie will have the bird waiting on all of the
> upstaters early tomorrow morning!
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> > On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Anders Peltomaa anders.pelto...@gmail.com
> [ebirdsnyc] <ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Breezy Point Lingering Migrants 11-29
> From: Andrew Baksh <birdingd...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:19:02 -0500
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>
> A late ones still hanging in there at Breezy and with various the CBCs
> closing in, it will be interesting to see what else might be uncovered
> given the recent weather.
>
> NORTHERN PARULA  (1) - could it be the same bird I had on 10-8?
>
> Orange-crowned Warbler (2) - seems to be a good year for them.
>
> WHITE-EYED VIREO (1)
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> Cheers,
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> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_[nysbirds-l]_Hammond=E2=80=99s_Flycatcher-_YES?=
> From: Robert Lewis <rfer...@yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 16:25:24 +0000 (UTC)
> X-Message-Number: 6
>
>
> Great news!  I expect to be there by about 1:30 today.  I hope to see lots
> of other birders!
> Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY
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>     On Friday, December 1, 2017, 10:58:17 AM EST, Michael Zito <
> michaelz...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>  Azalea pond right now.
> mike z
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:37 AM, nathan o'reilly natro...@hotmail.com
> [ebirdsnyc] <ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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>
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>
> Anders and wonder dog Bonnie will have the bird waiting on all of the
> upstaters early tomorrow morning!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 1, 2017, at 10:06 AM, Anders Peltomaa anders.pelto...@gmail.com
> [ebirdsnyc] <ebirdsnyc-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
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> 9:46am Hammonds at maintenance south end #birdcp via @raikbar
>
> It's Continuing. Start weekend planning upstaters...
>
> Anders Peltomaa
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> Subject: Prothonotary Warbler - Yes
> From: Eileen Schwinn <beach...@optonline.net>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 11:34:12 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 7
>
> The Suffolk County Farm, Yaphank, Prothonotary Warbler is currently being
> seen, feeding, in the area between the machine storage area and the
> concrete building, located just south of the pig sty.
> Eileen Schwinn
> Mike Higgiston
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> Subject: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> From: Shaibal Mitra <shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 19:42:42 +0000
> X-Message-Number: 8
>
> Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags
> over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this
> morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.
>
> Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to
> see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our
> binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously:
> "They're ALL ravens!"
>
> A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south
> of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but
> there were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped
> in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The
> group gradually dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were
> still visible at times over the next hour or so, including when Derek
> Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
>
> Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger
> than a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe
> along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about
> right for the total population on all of Long Island.
>
> Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
>
> The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition.
> Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering
> ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows
> would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
>
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
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> Subject: RE: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> From: Rick <rc...@nyc.rr.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 14:53:28 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 9
>
> On larger raven flocks (probably juvenile "gangs") See Bernd Heinrich's
> excellent "Ravens in Winter" (1989).
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Shaibal Mitra <shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu>
> Date:12/01/2017  2:42 PM  (GMT-05:00)
> To: "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)" <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
> Cc:
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk
> Co., LI
>
> Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags
> over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this
> morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.
>
> Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to
> see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our
> binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously:
> "They're ALL ravens!"
>
> A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south
> of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but
> there were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped
> in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The
> group gradually dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were
> still visible at times over the next hour or so, including when Derek
> Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
>
> Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger
> than a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe
> along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about
> right for the total population on all of Long Island.
>
> Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
>
> The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition.
> Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering
> ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows
> would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
>
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
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> Subject: RE: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> From: "Kevin J. McGowan" <k...@cornell.edu>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 20:19:23 +0000
> X-Message-Number: 10
>
> Undoubtedly a winter non-breeder group. I remember less than a decade ago
> my first encounter in the state with such a group in eastern Cortland
> County. I realized that there were now enough ravens breeding in New York
> that the juveniles could find each other. Looks like that might be true in
> your area now.
>
> Kevin McGowan
> Ithaca
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> 3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
> Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
> To: NYSBIRDS-L <nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>
> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk
> Co., LI
>
> Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags
> over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this
> morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.
>
> Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to
> see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our
> binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously:
> "They're ALL ravens!"
>
> A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south
> of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but
> there were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped
> in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The
> group gradually dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were
> still visible at times over the next hour or so, including when Derek
> Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
>
> Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger
> than a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe
> along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about
> right for the total population on all of Long Island.
>
> Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
>
> The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition.
> Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering
> ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows
> would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
>
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
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> Subject: Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> From: Andrew Block <ablock22...@yahoo.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 20:25:01 +0000 (UTC)
> X-Message-Number: 11
>
> Nice sighting.  It is very rare for around here to see so many in a flock,
> but out West they are frequently seen in medium sized flocks sometimes much
> larger usually at a feeding site such as a dead large mammal.  I have
> personally seen a flock of 80-100 in Unity, Maine, back in the mid 80's
> flying over the Unity College campus.  It blew my mind when I realized they
> were ravens.  It's so great to have them around here.
> Andrew Andrew v. F. Block
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>       From: Shaibal Mitra <shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu>
>  To: "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)" <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
>  Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
>  Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk
> Co., LI
>
> Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated zig-zags
> over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this
> morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long Island.
>
> Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to
> see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our
> binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously:
> "They're ALL ravens!"
>
> A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the south
> of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another, but
> there were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock dipped
> in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The
> group gradually dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were
> still visible at times over the next hour or so, including when Derek
> Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
>
> Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger
> than a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe
> along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about
> right for the total population on all of Long Island.
>
> Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
>
> The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition.
> Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly outnumbering
> ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American Crows
> would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
>
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
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> Subject: NYS eBird Hotspots: State, Counties & Locations Updated (Dec/'17)
> From: Ben Cacace <bcac...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 15:44:31 -0500
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>
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> smoothly and for the group of New York State hotspot moderators for their
> time reviewing shared location suggestions.
>
> The wiki page site was developed to access data on eBird.org and in places
> it includes additional links to birding resources at the county and
> location levels. If you have any suggestions for additional links please
> send them to me off list.
>
> All County pages currently have links for the Illustrated Checklists and
> links to both Images and Audio from the Macaulay Library.If useful let me
> know and I'll add these to the location level pages.
>
> *Species totals* have been updated for all county pages. This includes the
> total number of species with an equivalent color code highlighting the
> county name based on colors used on eBird maps. The alphabetical list of
> counties on the main page has been updated with total spp. #.
>
> *Hotspot pages*: All location pages have been updated on the wiki. These
> include 821 pages representing a total of 1,686 out of 5,948 hotspots
> (28.4%). Updates involve *# of species and color codings* based on species
> # along with updated 2017 periods on the bar chart tables displaying the:
>
> • Current Month: Dec./2017
> • Prior Month: Nov./2017
> • the current two month period Nov.-Dec./2017
> • along with the current year: 2017.
>
> For the following counties there are individual 'dynamic' wiki pages for
> the Top "10" locations at the top of the list of shared locations: Cayuga,
> Erie, Monroe, Niagara, Orange, Oswego, Seneca, Tompkins, Kings (Brooklyn),
> Queens, Richmond (Staten Island), Nassau and Suffolk Counties. Westchester
> and New York (Borough of Manhattan) Counties have all shared locations
> linked to wikipages.
>
> Counties with 'static' pages do not need to be maintained on a monthly
> basis. These include pages for the Top "10" locations and includes Albany,
> Bronx, Broome, Chautauqua, Delaware, Dutchess, Essex, Genesee, Hamilton,
> Jefferson, Oneida, Onondaga, Ontario, Rockland, St. Lawrence, Saratoga,
> Sullivan, Ulster & Wayne with Putnam County currently having all shared
> locations linked to wikipages. Essex and Rockland are newly added since
> last month's update.
>
> An *alphabetical list of all hotspots* (5,948) can be found on a single
> page. Links exist for any hotspot with a wikipage. Clicking the county name
> to the right of any hotspot will bring up the county page showing all
> hotspots for the county. A link to the alphabetical list page is at the
> bottom of this message. There is a link to the page at the top of the New
> York State page.
>
> *Bar Charts (Species Lists)*: For all county and top 10 location pages
> there's a table showing the months, seasons and several time frames for the
> current year. Clicking any of these links will bring up a complete list of
> species and other taxa with bar charts representing abundance. To see a
> list of species for *all* periods click on the name above the months i.e.
> 'New York State (481 spp.)' or 'Livingston County (262 spp.)'.
>
> *Maps of sightings*: After bringing up a bar chart list you'll see a MAP
> button to the right of each species. Clicking this will produce a map of
> the latest sightings. Red icons show sightings within the past 30 days.
> Click on the icons to see a list of who reported each species and click on
> 'Checklist' to view their submission. Click on 'Explore Rich Media' in the
> right sidebar to view locations with photos, audio or video. These also
> exist for any multi-location page combining the hotspots associated with
> the location i.e. Ashland Flats Wildlife Management Area in Jefferson
> County with its 3 locations.
>
> *Printable Checklists*: a link has been created to produce an eBird
> checklist (PDF format) for all hotspots on the wiki site. Additional
> details are in this email sent to the list <
> https://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/msg20153.html >.
>
> *Tide Graphs* exist for New York County, Kings County (Brooklyn) and
> Richmond County (Staten Island). There's a quick link to the tide graphs on
> the "Go To >" line highlighted in blue for each location. If there are
> multiple graphs on a page the left/right is generally north/south or
> west/east. If you spot any issues please let me know off line.
>
> Click '*Overview*' on any of the wiki pages to bring up a sortable list of
> all species along with the latest checklists submitted and a list of the
> Top eBirders. The default sort is for the latest additions to the State,
> County or location.
>
> Check out '*My Location Life List*', '*My County Life List*' and '*My State
> Life List*' links on their respective pages.
>
> For each location page click on '*Google Map Directions*' to bring up a
> Google Map page. On Google Maps click 'Directions' then 'Transit' to plot a
> public transportation route. By clicking 'More Options and Times' you can
> refine your search. This also works with 'Driving' and 'Walking'.
>
> • Home page: http://ebirding-nys.wikispaces.com/Birding+in+New+York
> • Alphabetical list of hotspots:
> http://ebirding-nys.wikispaces.com/AlphaHotspots
>
> --
> Ben Cacace
> Manhattan, NYC
> Wiki for NYS eBird Hotspots
> <http://ebirding-nys.wikispaces.com/Birding+in+New+York>
> Facebook Discussion for NYS eBird Hotspots: Q & A
> <https://www.facebook.com/groups/NYeBirdHotspots/>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Prothonotary Warbler - Yes
> From: Jim Osterlund <jfcosterl...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 17:11:33 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 13
>
> Following up on the earlier post, we found the warbler investigating
> recesses in the westernmost wall of the referenced building, which I
> believe to be the facility’s slaughterhouse, now disused.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> From: Richard Guthrie <richardpguth...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 17:35:00 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 14
>
> There has been large groups of Common (really) Ravens at Minnewaska State
> Park near New Paltz, Ulster County for the last few years. Scott Baldinger
> has been keeping close tabs on them with his regular Tuesday Early Birders
> Walks.
>
> Richard Guthrie
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Kevin J. McGowan <k...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
> > Undoubtedly a winter non-breeder group. I remember less than a decade ago
> > my first encounter in the state with such a group in eastern Cortland
> > County. I realized that there were now enough ravens breeding in New York
> > that the juveniles could find each other. Looks like that might be true
> in
> > your area now.
> >
> > Kevin McGowan
> > Ithaca
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bounce-122096022-3714...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:
> bounce-122096022-
> > 3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal Mitra
> > Sent: Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
> > To: NYSBIRDS-L <nysbird...@list.cornell.edu>
> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk
> > Co., LI
> >
> > Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated
> zig-zags
> > over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing I saw this
> > morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk County, Long
> Island.
> >
> > Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me to
> > see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising our
> > binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization simultaneously:
> > "They're ALL ravens!"
> >
> > A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the
> south
> > of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at another,
> but
> > there were clearly more based on the way that portions of the flock
> dipped
> > in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least 21 in the frame. The
> > group gradually dispersed westward and southward, but ten or more were
> > still visible at times over the next hour or so, including when Derek
> > Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
> >
> > Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks larger
> > than a family group, even in places where they are common (except maybe
> > along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought that 30 was about
> > right for the total population on all of Long Island.
> >
> > Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
> >
> > The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition.
> > Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly
> outnumbering
> > ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of 30 American
> Crows
> > would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
> >
> > Shai Mitra
> > Bay Shore
> > --
> >
> > NYSbirds-L List Info:
> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
> >
> > ARCHIVES:
> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
> > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
> > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
> >
> > Please submit your observations to eBird:
> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > NYSbirds-L List Info:
> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm
> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm
> > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm
> >
> > ARCHIVES:
> > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html
> > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L
> > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01
> >
> > Please submit your observations to eBird:
> > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/
> >
> > --
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Richard Guthrie
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RBA Buffalo Bird Report 01 Dec 2017
> From: David Suggs <dsu...@buffaloornithologicalsociety.org>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 18:29:11 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 15
>
> - RBA
> * New York
> * Buffalo
> * 12/01/2017
> * NYBU1712.01
> - Birds mentioned
>
>   -------------------------------------------
>   Please submit reports to
>   dsu...@buffaloornithologicalsociety.org
>   -------------------------------------------
>
>   Common Loon
>   Horned Grebe
>   Red-necked Grebe
>   Bl.-cr. Night-Heron
>   Harlequin Duck
>   Peregrine Falcon
>   Sanderling
>   Phalarope species
>   Franklin's Gull
>   Bonaparte's Gull
>   Iceland Gull
>   L. Black-b. Gull
>   Glaucous Gull
>   Black-leg. Kittiwake
>   Common Tern
>   Snowy Owl
>   Common Raven
>   Eastern Bluebird
>   American Robin
>   White-thr. Sparrow
>   Dark-eyed Junco
>   Pine Siskin
>
> - Transcript
>   Hotline: Buffalo Bird Report at the Buffalo Museum of Science
>   Date: 12/01/2017
>   Number: 716-896-1271
>   To Report: Same
>   Compiler: David F. Suggs
>   Coverage: Western New York and adjacent Ontario
>   Website: www.BuffaloOrnithologicalSociety.org
>
>   Friday, December 1, 2017
>
>   The Buffalo Bird Report is a service provided
>   by your Buffalo Museum of Science and the
>   Buffalo Ornithological Society. To contact the
>   Science Museum, call 896-5200. Press the pound
>   key to report sightings before the end of this
>   report.
>
>   Highlights of November reports from the Niagara
>   Frontier Region, primarily from the Niagara
>   River.
>
>   At the source of the river in Buffalo, at least
>   four SNOWY OWLS between the Erie Basin Marina
>   and the offshore Donnelly's Pier. Also at the
>   marina, ICELAND GULL, plus COMMON LOON, HORNED
>   GREBE, SANDERLING, and L. BLACK-B. GULL. Nearby
>   on the Buffalo River, four BL.-CR. NIGHT-
>   HERONS.
>
>   Off Unity Island in Buffalo's Black Rock
>   section, one or two FRANKLIN'S GULLS during the
>   month, among a flock of BONAPARTE'S GULLS at
>   the railroad bridge and north end of the
>   island. Also COMMON LOON and RED-NECKED GREBE
>   at Unity Island.
>
>   Early in the month, four PHALAROPES at the
>   Small Boat Harbor in Buffalo, and seven COMMON
>   TERNS lingering at Beaver Island State Park on
>   Grand Island.
>
>   At Niagara Falls, November 26, a juvenile
>   BLACK-LEG. KITTIWAKE below the Horseshoe Falls,
>   viewed from Ontario. Four, male HARLEQUIN DUCKS
>   above the falls near the stranded barge, and a
>   GLAUCOUS GULL off the Three Sisters Islands at
>   Goat Island.
>
>   On the lower Niagara River, 10 ICELAND GULLS at
>   the power plants.
>
>   Other reports in November - From Buffalo, PIE-
>   BILLED GREBE and WOOD DUCK at Delaware Park
>   Lake, and two COMMON RAVENS and a PEREGRINE
>   FALCON at the Richardson Complex on Elmwood
>   Avenue in Buffalo. PINE SISKIN, WHITE-THR.
>   SPARROW, AMERICAN ROBIN and DARK-EYED JUNCO
>   in a yard near the Buffalo airport. And, a
>   flock of EASTERN BLUEBIRDS at Sprague Brook
>   Park in southern Erie County.
>
>   The Bird Report will be updated Thursday
>   evening, December 7. Please call in your
>   sightings by noon Thursday. You may report
>   sightings after the tone. Thank you for calling
>   and reporting.
>
> - End Transcript
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: NYC/Long Island Rarity Roundup This Weekend
> From: Shaibal Mitra <shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu>
> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 00:15:58 +0000
> X-Message-Number: 16
>
> Sean's report of his and Doug's efforts in Brooklyn yesterday reminded me
> of the "Long Island Rarity Roundup" Doug proposed six years ago, which
> proved to be a lot of fun.
>
> His original conception of it was described like this:
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>
> Hey all,
> In case you're not familiar with a rarity roundup, it is essentially a
> Christmas Count, except instead of counting all the individuals you look
> for rarities. So basically, in a selected region, everyone covers one area
> (or more if possible) and instead of having to count, say, 13,573 Brant you
> just do what many of us already tend towards anyway, which is combing areas
> for rarities. It's basically a birding scavenger hunt! The other difference
> is that it is done in the window when amazing vagrants show up. While this
> of course can be just about any month, they seem concentrated in November
> in the Northeast (mid-late October as well, but more-so in November).
>
> The Maryland birding community has been doing a rarity roundup for several
> years now, and Cape May will be doing it for the 2nd year in a row next
> week. The Maryland one is confined to just Worcester County, while the Cape
> May one, I believe, includes 2 counties (Cape May and Cumberland).
>
> Both of these roundups are held over the course of 2 days, maximizing
> rarity-ness.
> One for Region 10 would involve up to 7 counties, which might be a bit
> excessive. However, I think that at least a couple of counties would be
> doable, or even 2 per day. A county like Brooklyn could, while it has a
> great recent history of vagrants (though no November ones that I can think
> of strangely enough), be covered in one day by only a couple of people, and
> Manhattan and even the Bronx are the same. The Counties that would be more
> effort intensive are Nassau and Suffolk.
>
> After all is said and done we would gather for an after-count
> tally/discussion/drunken revelry/hanging out somewhere centrally located.
>
> Below I will attach the text of the E-Mails that went out concerning the
> Maryland and Cape May ones this year. They (especially the Maryland one)
> are worth the couple of minutes it takes to read through them.
> Unfortunately I can't find the E-Mail from the Cape May one from last year
> which was, like this one, a bit of an introduction to the concept.
>
> This E-Mail is to gauge the interest level of local birders, and to start
> a dialogue about ideas for how big of one we could get away with while
> still maintaining reasonably good coverage, as well as (very importantly)
> where the after party festivities would be held.
>
> Thoughts? ReadySetGo!
> -Doug
> >>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> Given that familiarity with eBird has greatly increased since 2011, I
> would suggest that people simply cover one or a few potentially productive
> patches, ideally covering about 0.5 miles over approximately one hour.
> It's much easier to do simple analyses and comparisons by hand if people
> divide their effort into these sorts of comparable checklists. For
> instance, we can examine how detection of particular species varies from
> county to county or from hour to hour through the day. Doug thinks
> insectivores will be more active in the late morning; I counter that my
> three target species of Tyrannus will most likely be found around 08:00.
> If all goes well, everyone will collapse onto a mega-rarity somewhere, so
> the data will be hopelessly non-independent anyway! The two days of this
> weekend will likely produce some significant discoveries.
>
> Late fall 2017 is a MUST-BIRD opportunity for people interested in scarce
> and rare birds. A fascinating incursion of Indigo Buntings, Blue Grosbeaks,
> Summer Tanagers, Hooded Warblers, Northern Parulas, and White-eyed Vireos
> occurred in early November and is still being sorted out. Even if we don't
> find anything of great rarity, it is a very productive exercise to rehearse
> one's CBC routes in late Nov/early Dec. Some CBC targets (e.g., Palm
> Warbler and Ruby-crowned Kinglet) are easier to find now than they will be
> in a few weeks. Others (e.g., Eastern Towhee and Gray Catbird) are actually
> scarcer now than they will be after mainland refugia freeze up during
> December. Check it out!
>
> Round-up wrap-ups are a lot of fun, and we plan to gather on at least one
> night at Sea Levels, in Brightwaters, Suffolk County. We will post an
> update after we get our itinerary straightened out, and encourage others to
> do the same.
>
> Shai Mitra, Patricia Lindsay, and Doug Gochfeld
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> From: Steve Walter <swalte...@verizon.net>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 19:27:53 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 17
>
> Interesting bit of information. I seem to recall that it's said that one
> way
> to separate Chihuahuan from Common Raven in Arizona / New Mexico is that
> only Chihuahuans occur in flocks. Maybe that is true in that area, but
> could
> this cast some doubt on that?
>
>
>
> I didn't think about it all that much a few weeks ago when hawk watching
> near Port Jervis, NY, but at one point a group of 9 or 10 Common Ravens
> flew
> by. A couple of years ago, upon coming back from this trip, I reported on
> up
> to 40 apparently going to a roost near the pull off south of the Bear
> Mountain Bridge. No sign of that on this year's trip (although up to 50
> Black Vultures likely going to a roost closer to the bridge made for an
> impressive sight).
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Walter
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: NYC Area RBA: 1 December 2017
> From: Ben Cacace <bcac...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 21:35:29 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 18
>
> - RBA
> * New York
> * New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
> * Dec. 1, 2017
> * NYNY1712.01
>
> - Birds mentioned
> PINK-FOOTED GOOSE+
> HAMMOND'S FLYCATCHER+
> TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE+
> WESTERN TANAGER+
> (+ Details requested by NYSARC)
>
> GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE
> ROSS'S GOOSE
> Cackling Goose
> Eurasian Wigeon
> HUDSONIAN GODWIT
> Parasitic Jaeger
> Black-legged Kittiwake
> BLACK-HEADED GULL
> LITTLE GULL
> Iceland Gull
> Lesser Black-backed Gull
> Red-headed Woodpecker
> Common Raven
> LAPLAND LONGSPUR
> Ovenbird
> Northern Waterthrush
> Black-and-white Warbler
> PROTHONOTARY WARBLER
> Orange-crowned Warbler
> Nashville Warbler
> Common Yellowthroat
> Northern Parula
> Magnolia Warbler
> Black-throated Green Warbler
> Canada Warbler
> Wilson's Warbler
> CLAY-COLORED SPARROW
> Dickcissel
> Boat-tailed Grackle
>
> - Transcript
>
> If followed by (+) please submit documentation of your report
> electronically and use the NYSARC online submission form found at
> http://www.nybirds.org/NYSARC/goodreport.htm
>
> You can also send reports and digital image files via email to
> nysarc44(at)nybirds{dot}org.
>
> If electronic submission is not possible, hardcopy reports and photos or
> sketches are welcome. Hardcopy documentation should be mailed to:
>
>         Gary Chapin - Secretary
>         NYS Avian Records Committee (NYSARC)
>         125 Pine Springs Drive
>         Ticonderoga, NY 12883
>
> Hotline: New York City Area Rare Bird Alert
> Number: (212) 979-3070
>
> Compilers: Tom Burke and Tony Lauro
> Coverage: New York City, Long Island, Westchester County
>
> Transcriber: Ben Cacace
>
> BEGIN TAPE
>
> Greetings. This is the New York Rare Bird Alert for Friday, December 1st
> 2017 at 8pm. The highlights of today's tape are HAMMOND'S FLYCATCHER,
> WESTERN TANAGER, TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE, LITTLE GULL, BLACK-HEADED GULL,
> PINK-FOOTED GOOSE, ROSS'S GOOSE, GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GOOSE, HUDSONIAN
> GODWIT, PROTHONOTARY WARBLER, LAPLAND LONGSPUR and CLAY-COLORED SPARROW. A
> good week for birds.
>
> First spotted near the Ramble in Central Park early last Sunday a small
> empidonax flycatcher was accommodating enough to enable sufficiently
> detailed photos that soon determined its identity as a HAMMOND'S
> FLYCATCHER. A third record for New York State. Seen everyday since Sunday
> the flycatcher has been elusive but when being observed it has usually been
> in areas of the Ramble with such names as the Oven, the Gill, the Rustic
> Shelter and the Swampy Pin Oak. This latter, a tree that hasn't existed
> since Hurricane Sandy. The above areas are all near Azalea Pond just west
> of the Boat House on Central Park Lake. But today the flycatcher also
> ventured a little farther north to the south end of the Maintenance Meadow
> but was seen later again near Azalea Pond. Hopefully for the weekend folks
> will be able to track the bird and direct arriving birders to its current
> location.
>
> The WESTERN TANAGER at the Alley Pond Environmental Center was being seen
> at least through Tuesday along the trail that enters the east side of the
> park right after crossing the Northern Boulevard bridge over the creek.
> Parking is at the center on the west side of the creek. Interestingly a
> second WESTERN TANAGER has been visiting a private residence in Stony Brook
> first seen on November 17th but only subsequently and positively
> identified.
>
> Staying with the landbirds. A male PROTHONOTARY WARBLER has been present at
> least since last Friday at the Suffolk County Farm and Education Center off
> Yaphank Avenue in Yaphank. Two other interesting reports from that location
> during the week both accompanied by photographs were a TOWNSEND'S SOLITAIRE
> last Sunday and a CLAY-COLORED SPARROW today. A gathering of over 30 COMMON
> RAVENS seen there today was also quite impressive.
>
> A PINK-FOOTED GOOSE was found with Canadas in Montauk Tuesday this on the
> south side of Route 27 at the Deep Hollow Ranch. A ROSS'S GOOSE was
> photographed in Connetquot River State Park in Great River last Saturday.
> Single GREATER WHITE-FRONTED GEESE continue to be seen at Belmont Lake
> State Park and Tung Ting Pond in Centerport as well as at other sites.
> Seemingly widespread CACKLING GEESE include 2 in Prospect Park last Sunday.
> Both drake EURASIAN WIGEON continue to be noted at Jamaica Bay Wildlife
> Refuge, on Mill Pond in West Sayville, on Fresh Pond in Fort Salonga and on
> Eastport Lake.
>
> Among the gulls, missed on last week's tape, was a subadult LITTLE GULL off
> Montauk Point on November 23rd and the presumed Pelham Bay BLACK-HEADED
> GULL was back at Five Islands Park in New Rochelle last Saturday. An
> ICELAND GULL was at Playland Park in Rye Tuesday and at Riis Park last
> Saturday a single BLACK-LEGGED KITTIWAKE was joined by an ICELAND and two
> LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULLS. The latter still around in low numbers. A
> PARASITIC JAEGER was off Jones Beach West End Saturday. At least one
> HUDSONIAN GODWIT continued at Heckscher State Park through last Saturday.
>
> An immature RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was still at Green-wood Cemetery in
> Brooklyn Wednesday. A DICKCISSEL visited Robert Moses State Park last
> Saturday and LAPLAND LONGSPURS featured singles at Smith Point County Park
> Saturday and at the Fire Island Hawkwatch Sunday.
>
> Unusual by location was a BOAT-TAILED GRACKLE with Common Grackles in
> Central Park's Sheep Meadow last weekend. Decent numbers of ORANGE-CROWNED
> WARBLERS continue in the area but the nice list of late lingering other
> warblers have folks thinking already of the upcoming Christmas Counts this
> list including OVENBIRD, NORTHERN WATERTHRUSH, BLACK-AND-WHITE, NASHVILLE,
> COMMON YELLOWTHROAT, NORTHERN PARULA, MAGNOLIA, BLACK-THROATED GREEN,
> CANADA and WILSON'S.
>
> To phone in reports on Long Island call Tony Lauro at (631) 734-4126 or
> call Tom Burke at (914) 967-4922.
>
> This service is sponsored by the Linnaean Society of New York and the
> National Audubon Society. Thank you for calling.
>
> - End transcript
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Ramble Map with Named Locations
> From: Anders Peltomaa <anders.pelto...@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2017 03:08:32 +0000
> X-Message-Number: 19
>
> I got a couple of requests today for a map with the named locations
>
> https://flic.kr/p/Cr1oJM
>
> This is a screenshot of David Barrett’s google map.
>
> good birding,
>
> Anders
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> Subject: Re: Ramble Map with Named Locations
> From: Robert Lewis <rfer...@yahoo.com>
> Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2017 03:28:35 +0000 (UTC)
> X-Message-Number: 20
>
> Thanks.  I don't see the Holly Tree, which was a pace a lot of people
> tried today for the Hammond's.
> Bob LewisSleepy Hollow NY
>
>
>     On Friday, December 1, 2017, 10:09:03 PM EST, Anders Peltomaa <
> anders.pelto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  I got a couple of requests today for a map with the named locations
> https://flic.kr/p/Cr1oJM
>
> This is a screenshot of David Barrett’s google map.
> good birding,
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> Subject: Re: [ebirdsnyc] Re: Ramble Map with Named Locations
> From: David Barrett <mil...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 22:46:23 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 21
>
> The Holly Tree in question is in the vicinity -- just east, I believe -- of
> the Gill Overlook on the screenshot.
>
> You might want the "live" Google Maps version of my Central Park Birding
> map, which you can pull up on your phone when you visit and GPS will show
> you where you are on it:
>
> https://goo.gl/iCGK2L
>
> You also should follow the birding alerts from @BirdCentralPark on Twitter,
> as these are used in Central Park and the Hammond's Flycatcher will be
> tweeted there most frequently, if it is found.
>
> David Barrett
> Manhattan
>
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 10:28 PM, Robert Lewis rfer...@yahoo.com
> [ebirdsnyc]
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> >
> >
> > Thanks.  I don't see the Holly Tree, which was a pace a lot of people
> > tried today for the Hammond's.
> >
> > Bob Lewis
> > Sleepy Hollow NY
> >
> >
> > On Friday, December 1, 2017, 10:09:03 PM EST, Anders Peltomaa <
> > anders.pelto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I got a couple of requests today for a map with the named locations
> >
> > https://flic.kr/p/Cr1oJM
> >
> > This is a screenshot of David Barrett’s google map.
> >
> > good birding,
> >
> > Anders
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> Subject: Re: Astonishing High Count for Common Raven, Suffolk Co., LI
> From: Andrew Mason <andyma...@earthling.net>
> Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2017 23:47:28 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 22
>
> The Delaware-Otsego Audubon Soc. has been using trail cameras baited
> with road-killed deer to determine winter Golden Eagle presence in the
> Catskills and central NY over the past few years.  The numbers of ravens
> coming in to these sites is astonishing--hundreds at a time on
> occasion.  So many that they can strip a full grown deer carcass to the
> bones in a day.
>
> When I began birding in the 1980s, it was necessary to travel to the
> Adirondacks to have a chance of seeing a raven--what a range expansion!
>
> Here's a link to a photo of a modest congregation at one site:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/a3EAuqzCZgYkjN6D3.
>
> Andy Mason
>
>
> On 12/1/2017 3:25 PM, Andrew Block wrote:
> > Nice sighting. It is very rare for around here to see so many in a
> > flock, but out West they are frequently seen in medium sized flocks
> > sometimes much larger usually at a feeding site such as a dead large
> > mammal.  I have personally seen a flock of 80-100 in Unity, Maine,
> > back in the mid 80's flying over the Unity College campus.  It blew my
> > mind when I realized they were ravens.  It's so great to have them
> > around here.
> >
> > Andrew
> > *Andrew v. F. Block*
> > /Consulting Naturalist/
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> > Phone: 914-963-3080; Cell: 914-319-9701
> > www.flickr.com/photos/conuropsis/albums
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Shaibal Mitra <shaibal.mi...@csi.cuny.edu>
> > *To:* "NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu)" <NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu>
> > *Sent:* Friday, December 1, 2017 2:43 PM
> > *Subject:* [nysbirds-l] Astonishing High Count for Common Raven,
> > Suffolk Co., LI
> >
> > Watching a Prothonotary Warbler flying around me in low, repeated
> > zig-zags over open ground on 1 December wasn't the most unusual thing
> > I saw this morning at the Suffolk County Farm in Yaphank, Suffolk
> > County, Long Island.
> >
> > Pat had seen a couple of Common Ravens before I arrived and wanted me
> > to see them. "There's a raven," she said, "with those crows." Raising
> > our binoculars, we came to the same shocking realization
> > simultaneously: "They're ALL ravens!"
> >
> > A flock of more than 30 Common Ravens rose above the treeline to the
> > south of property; I counted 23 at one point, and Pat counted 30 at
> > another, but there were clearly more based on the way that portions of
> > the flock dipped in and out of sight. One of my photos shows at least
> > 21 in the frame. The group gradually dispersed westward and southward,
> > but ten or more were still visible at times over the next hour or so,
> > including when Derek Rogers stopped by to see if I was ok.
> >
> > Prior to this I wasn't aware that Common Ravens occurred in flocks
> > larger than a family group, even in places where they are common
> > (except maybe along salmon runs in Alaska), and I would have thought
> > that 30 was about right for the total population on all of Long Island.
> >
> > Perhaps there is an overnight roost there or nearby, to be worked out.
> >
> > The statuses of Long Island Corvus have changed beyond recognition.
> > Whereas we used to have Twa Corbies, with brachrhynchos vastly
> > outnumbering ossifragus, now there are Trois--and nowadays a count of
> > 30 American Crows would be quite notable anywhere on western LI.
> >
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