Keep the conversation going with eBird. As an ornithologist, I'm interested in tracking the ups and downs of potential newly established species. As a lister, I'm interested in keeping my list clean and comparable for ABA rankings. I don't work with eBird, but be assured that the guys that do are both ornithologists and listers, too. I have no doubt that they will address this issue in the future. They're not technocrats who want to tell birders what to do, they're our people.
Kevin Kevin J. McGowan Project Manager Distance Learning in Bird Biology Cornell Lab of Ornithology 159 Sapsucker Woods Road Ithaca, NY 14850 k...@cornell.edu 607-254-2452 ________________________________ From: bounce-122144442-3714...@list.cornell.edu <bounce-122144442-3714...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Michael Schrimpf <michael.schri...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 4:02 PM To: brian.whip...@gmail.com Cc: NYSBIRDS-L; eBirds NYC Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Governors Island: European Goldfinch Flock (18-Dec) Hi all, Just to add a bit more context: There have been many in-depth discussions on this topic among the eBird reviewers, and the folks at Cornell acknowledge that this is an issue they wish to tackle soon. In one of his recent responses to our reviewer listserv, Marshall Iliff indicated that addressing this is a priority for them, so I imagine we should have additional tools soon (perhaps in the next year), presumably impacting what shows up in the public output, and likely including some user-options for what to count and what not to count on our own personal lists. The current recommendation is to report any live, wild birds, including introduced birds (see the bottom of this help page): http://help.ebird.org/customer/en/portal/articles/973921-what-data-are-appropriate- What Data are Appropriate? | eBird<http://help.ebird.org/customer/en/portal/articles/973921-what-data-are-appropriate-> help.ebird.org This feature describes the kinds of data appropriate for eBird, provides some tips for data entry, and warns about the problems associated with certain kinds of ... In many places some of those introduced birds will become 'invalidated' by the reviewers, meaning they won't show up in public output (but will still show up on your lists), while other established species will show up on public maps. The important thing is that regardless of review status, those records are still in the database, and if/when they become important to monitor the community will still have access to those records. Some of that process may change once eBird Central invents new tools to deal with the data. Many (but not all) exotics are also 'domestic' types, by which eBird means "distinctly-plumaged domesticated varieties that may be free-flying". Locally this includes things like Budgerigar, 'Swedish' Mallards, etc. There are normally separate taxonomic categories for those birds with the words (Domestic type) in parenthesis. These should only be used for birds that are identifiable as a domestic variety. These domestic varieties currently don't show up on lists. More info on that category can be found on this help page: http://help.ebird.org/customer/en/portal/articles/1006825-the-ebird-taxonomy?b_id=1928 The eBird Taxonomy | eBird<http://help.ebird.org/customer/en/portal/articles/1006825-the-ebird-taxonomy?b_id=1928> help.ebird.org Updated 15 Aug 2017 -- eBird Taxonomy v2017. The eBird Taxonomy is a hierarchical approach to creating a species list for data entry and listing purposes across the ... Michael Schrimpf Suffolk Cty eBird reviewer for the high seas and Antarctica On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 1:16 PM, <brian.whip...@gmail.com<mailto:brian.whip...@gmail.com>> wrote: The umpteen responses I’ve gotten to the contrary are why I hedged my sureness. Does anyone know the proper protocol for entering escapees on checklists (benefitting science) without having them inaccurately show up on lifelists (benefitting type-A listers)? Also, I know some of my Central Park checklists include Budgies, but there’s no Budgie on my NYS life list, so I must have done something right. Thanks! -- NYSbirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm> Rules and Information<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm> Subscribe, Configuration and Leave<http://www.northeastbirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm> Archives: The Mail Archive<http://firstname.lastname@example.org/maillist.html> Surfbirds<http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L> ABA<http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01> Please submit your observations to eBird<http://ebird.org/content/ebird/>! -- -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://email@example.com/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --